The Ze has the latest firmware installed and no long scale mode is activated. I never had that problem with the 3849r1.
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Dahua WizColor 5x59-PRO and SmartLight 5x59-IL new series
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latest - so exactly which one?
You must disable AcuPic, reboot and enable Large scale AI models..
ok, so Large Scale AI models are available, simply you have more false positives on them..
False positives from WHAT? What objects creates them? Any footage / pics of alarms?
Also did you have enabled animal detection?
I remember that you reported false positives on this scene and didn't answer for any my question..
I posted a video where the object is recognized on the left. Yes, with that mode I would have even more false alarms.
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0-3ms
0-50 gain
20 NR
55 Sharp
10240 CBR 30FPS H.264h
Not running WDR or SSA so the white boat is a bit overexposed. I'll move it tomorrow to a more open location, but this is my difficult scene.
View attachment 192.168.1.110_ch4_20251021114850_20251021114920.mp4
0-50 gain
20 NR
55 Sharp
10240 CBR 30FPS H.264h
Not running WDR or SSA so the white boat is a bit overexposed. I'll move it tomorrow to a more open location, but this is my difficult scene.
View attachment 192.168.1.110_ch4_20251021114850_20251021114920.mp4
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was a 5442 installed before and was working without false alarms?
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Trying the HLC=1 suggestion. Pretty much same as mild Defog
No HLC / then HLC 1
It does help tame the bright overexposed tree across the canal, but I lose too much at the shed door and get dancing pixels.
Its always going to be a tradeoff on this scene.
I measured 500lux in the corner by the camera and 1860lux just 12 ft forward on the deck.
Its primary purpose is close-in ID and I have 2 other cameras watching the dock and canal so ..
No HLC / then HLC 1
It does help tame the bright overexposed tree across the canal, but I lose too much at the shed door and get dancing pixels.
Its always going to be a tradeoff on this scene.
I measured 500lux in the corner by the camera and 1860lux just 12 ft forward on the deck.
Its primary purpose is close-in ID and I have 2 other cameras watching the dock and canal so ..
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Have you tried altering the gamma setting? After switching to the 8/27 firmware, I found the gamma setting to have quite an effect upon the image--more than on the 5442, for example.
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yes have been playing with it. Havent updated to the new FW yet so likely tomorrow. I had a suspicion it might have an effect.
I actually mentioned the possibility pages back. It kinda looks "over gamma'd"
I actually mentioned the possibility pages back. It kinda looks "over gamma'd"
Here's an animated GIF (generated from PNG snapshots downloaded directly from the camera) showing the difference (with my scene) between HLC OFF and HLC=1.
That's quite a bit of difference visually ... plus look at the Histograms. Seems puzzling to me that setting HLC to just ONE (the scale goes to 100) would make this much difference (and look at the boost on the lower end (check out the shadows/bushes/rocks in the lower left) ... from HLC?!?) ... which you can also see on the live feed.
Straight from the Web5.0 Operations Manual, here is what HLC is supposed to do:
Enable HLC when extreme strong light is in the environment (such as toll station or parking lot), the camera will dim strong light, and reduce the size of halo zone to lower the brightness of the whole image, so that the camera can capture human face or car plate detail clearly. The higher the value is, the more obvious the HLC effect will be.
It's doing a LOT more than that when just barely turned on!
That's quite a bit of difference visually ... plus look at the Histograms. Seems puzzling to me that setting HLC to just ONE (the scale goes to 100) would make this much difference (and look at the boost on the lower end (check out the shadows/bushes/rocks in the lower left) ... from HLC?!?) ... which you can also see on the live feed.
Straight from the Web5.0 Operations Manual, here is what HLC is supposed to do:
Enable HLC when extreme strong light is in the environment (such as toll station or parking lot), the camera will dim strong light, and reduce the size of halo zone to lower the brightness of the whole image, so that the camera can capture human face or car plate detail clearly. The higher the value is, the more obvious the HLC effect will be.
It's doing a LOT more than that when just barely turned on!
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you can always go down with exposure compensation..
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We’ve used it for years for car headlights and bright spot lights shining towards the camera.
The downside during the day is that it darkens the image close in sometimes a bit too much.
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Tried that and it actually works better than any of the other methods for that scene!
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OK 4 quick tests to show the basic difference
Night settings
Exp- 0-4ms
Exp Comp 45
Gain 0-50
NR 30
Contrast 55, Gamma 45, Others 50
As always CBR, 30FPS, 10240 bitrate, H.264H
1- B&W/IR only - ONLY onboard IR and some spillover IR from another camera in backyard - Illuminator in IR mode AUTO. Illumination Overexposure Remover (IOR) thingy turned OFF (more on that later) *Forgot my little Mr Beams over the door but it doesnt put out much light
2- Same but with Floodlight activated as I would normally run it
3- Color mode- So this is Smart Illumination ON, AUTO, Illumination Overexposure Remover OFF
4- See why Illumination Overexposure Remover is OFF!
*Note with Illumination Overexposure Remover OFF, the camera still does a "SmartIR" kinda thing,. You'll notice it at the end of the first clip when the door opens.
Its subtle but it works and its way better than the IOR
B&W/IR only onboard IR - no Floodlight
View attachment NVR_ch4_main_20251021201339_20251021201423.mp4
B&W with my Floodlight on (facing out really doesnt effect the door area)
View attachment 192.168.1.110_ch4_20251021201228_20251021201304.mp4
Color mode- Smart Illum On/Auto - IOR OFF otherwise same
View attachment 192.168.1.110_ch4_20251021203247_20251021203330.mp4
Night settings
Exp- 0-4ms
Exp Comp 45
Gain 0-50
NR 30
Contrast 55, Gamma 45, Others 50
As always CBR, 30FPS, 10240 bitrate, H.264H
1- B&W/IR only - ONLY onboard IR and some spillover IR from another camera in backyard - Illuminator in IR mode AUTO. Illumination Overexposure Remover (IOR) thingy turned OFF (more on that later) *Forgot my little Mr Beams over the door but it doesnt put out much light
2- Same but with Floodlight activated as I would normally run it
3- Color mode- So this is Smart Illumination ON, AUTO, Illumination Overexposure Remover OFF
4- See why Illumination Overexposure Remover is OFF!
*Note with Illumination Overexposure Remover OFF, the camera still does a "SmartIR" kinda thing,. You'll notice it at the end of the first clip when the door opens.
Its subtle but it works and its way better than the IOR
B&W/IR only onboard IR - no Floodlight
View attachment NVR_ch4_main_20251021201339_20251021201423.mp4
B&W with my Floodlight on (facing out really doesnt effect the door area)
View attachment 192.168.1.110_ch4_20251021201228_20251021201304.mp4
Color mode- Smart Illum On/Auto - IOR OFF otherwise same
View attachment 192.168.1.110_ch4_20251021203247_20251021203330.mp4
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Forgot to mention that I sprayed a shit ton of bug spray to get through this without being carried away and got a bunch on the windows in case you noticed.
Mrs bigredfish is not amused
Mrs bigredfish is not amused
