Dahua WizColor 5x59-PRO and SmartLight 5x59-IL new series

I think HiK and others are in the same/similar boat with regards to sensors.

Not sure how much is availability, how much is politics, or how much is just plain $$$
 
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I will say I have one 54PRO I kept doing duty at the back door. With added motion 1000 lumen flood light 4 ft away, it’s acceptable for this 15ft area.

The big selling point is the IVS activated white lights. Let’s face it, that’s the feature most needed and what could have been a home run on the 5442

As it stands, my experience with getting the 5442 S3 to switch to color requires about 2000 lumens to be reliable
 
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bigredfish said:
I will say I have one 54PRO I kept doing duty at the back door. With added motion 1000 lumen flood light 4 ft away, it’s acceptable for this 15ft area.

The big selling point is the IVS activated white lights. Let’s face it, that’s the feature most needed and what could have been a home run on the 5442

As it stands, my experience with getting the 5442 to switch to color requires about 2000 lumens to be reliable
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You could always opt for a Reolink 3000 lumen PoE powered Elite Floodlight for $170 when on sale (significantly cheaper than the 54PRO) - Mount it in the vicinity of the 5442

But then I hear that Reolink doesn’t work reliably with Blue Iris - but thats probably user error lol
 
While many of us praise the Dahua cams, we do not praise EVERY model they put out. Many are clearly intended for folks other than us. This model is one such camera that is trying to compete with the other stuff out on the market now.

And even with the best cameras they produce, not many firmware updates come out, so it shouldn't be a shock to anyone that have had these types of cameras for awhile that this is normal.

I wouldn't be so quick to shut the door on Dahua. In my opinion many here jumped the purchase gun on this new series without waiting for actual reviews (although the promo videos were not very good to begin with). Who else are you going to go to?

Newer isn't always better.

Waiting for a review from someone other than a paid influencer or company promo video is time well spent than buying multiple untested cameras and being disappointed.

Apparently the 7-series has the capabilities we are looking for.

So as always it comes down to performance/cost versus your acceptance of motion blur in low light conditions.
 
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wittaj said:
While many of us praise the Dahua cams, we do not praise EVERY model they put out. Many are clearly intended for folks other than us. This model is one such camera that is trying to compete with the other stuff out on the market now.

And even with the best cameras they produce, not many firmware updates come out, so it shouldn't be a shock to anyone that have had these types of cameras for awhile that this is normal.

I wouldn't be so quick to shut the door on Dahua. In my opinion many here jumped the purchase gun on this new series without waiting for actual reviews (although the promo videos were not very good to begin with). Who else are you going to go to?

Newer isn't always better.

Waiting for a review from someone other than a paid influencer or company promo video is time well spent than buying multiple untested cameras and being disappointed.

Apparently the 7-series has the capabilities we are looking for.

So as always it comes down to performance/cost versus your acceptance of motion blur in low light conditions.
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The issue is that its been well over a year with very little to no improvement. Folks here agree, lol
AI ruined the fun. Now, everybody thinks they know everything.
 
Arjun said:
The issue is that its been well over a year with very little to no improvement. Folks here agree, lol
AI ruined the fun. Now, everybody thinks they know everything.
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Name me other cameras that significantly improved with a firmware update? Like to the extent everyone wants this camera to improve to?

Since I don't update firmware, if the camera can't perform at time of purchase, I wait or buy something else and don't buy with the hopes a firmware update will fix what is wrong with a camera I haven't bought yet LOL.
 
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Chokolinho said:
The 7 Series costs twice as much as the 5 Series. With three cameras, you'll quickly hit 1,500.
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Like I said, everyone has to decide your performance/cost versus your acceptance of motion blur in low light conditions.

Do you want to spend $1,500 and be able to give the police clean ID pictures or $750 and only be able to tell them what time it happened (in that case you can spend a lot less LOL).

Twice as much is still cheaper than Axis.
 
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Name me other cameras that significantly improved with a firmware update? Like to the extent everyone wants this camera to improve to?

Since I don't update firmware, if the camera can't perform at time of purchase, I wait or buy something else and don't buy with the hopes a firmware update will fix what is wrong with a camera I haven't bought yet LOL.
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After dealing with Ubiquiti crap, I've learned to never update firmware unless it is absolutely necessary and that it is confirmed bug-free
 
wittaj said:
Like I said, everyone has to decide your performance/cost versus your acceptance of motion blur in low light conditions.

Do you want to spend $1,500 and be able to give the police clean ID pictures or $750 and only be able to tell them what time it happened (in that case you can spend a lot less LOL).

Twice as much is still cheaper than Axis.
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I wannit ALL and I wannit NOW!:winktongue:
 
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I'd gladly buy a 7 series if someone could show me a test showing its image quality to be equal or better than the 5442 and with white LEDs that come on when activated by IVS...


I'll wait...
 
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I'd gladly buy a 7 series if someone could show me a test showing its image quality to be equal or better than the 5442 and with white LEDs that come on when activated by IVS...


I'll wait...
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ODE TO THE 5x59-PRO
I walked into the forum on a dusty Tuesday night,
Looking for a partner that'll treat my fields just right.
Andy grinned and tipped his hat, said, "Son, what'll it be?"
I said, "Before I sign that paper, prove a thing to me."

Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, don't you leave me guessin',
Show me your image quality, that's my one confession.
Are you better than a 5442? That's what I need to know.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
Then you've got my vote, and home we'll go.

Verse 2
Specs and numbers fill the page, but talk is mighty cheap,
I need a clear view after dark when the countryside's asleep.
If you can light the night just right and see through rain and fog,
You'll earn a place beside me in every alligator bog.

Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, don't you leave me guessin',
Show me your image quality, that's my one confession.
Are you better than a 5442? That's what I need to know.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
Then you've got my vote, and home we'll go.

Bridge
It's not about the chrome or shine, or promises they make,
It's about the little things that help you stay awake.
When the moment comes and timing's right,
I want a system that can see the night.

Final Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, that's the deal I'm makin',
Show me your image quality, no corners left forsaken.
If you're better than a 5442, then let your colors show.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
I'll hitch my wagon and never let you go.

Outro
So here's my handshake, plain and true, beneath the evening sky—
Give me clear eyes in the darkness, and you've got yourself a buyer tonight!
 
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tmxv4128 said:
ODE TO THE 5x59-PRO
I walked into the forum on a dusty Tuesday night,
Looking for a partner that'll treat my fields just right.
Andy grinned and tipped his hat, said, "Son, what'll it be?"
I said, "Before I sign that paper, prove a thing to me."

Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, don't you leave me guessin',
Show me your image quality, that's my one confession.
Are you better than a 5442? That's what I need to know.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
Then you've got my vote, and home we'll go.

Verse 2
Specs and numbers fill the page, but talk is mighty cheap,
I need a clear view after dark when the countryside's asleep.
If you can light the night just right and see through rain and fog,
You'll earn a place beside me in every alligator bog.

Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, don't you leave me guessin',
Show me your image quality, that's my one confession.
Are you better than a 5442? That's what I need to know.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
Then you've got my vote, and home we'll go.

Bridge
It's not about the chrome or shine, or promises they make,
It's about the little things that help you stay awake.
When the moment comes and timing's right,
I want a system that can see the night.

Final Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, that's the deal I'm makin',
Show me your image quality, no corners left forsaken.
If you're better than a 5442, then let your colors show.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
I'll hitch my wagon and never let you go.

Outro
So here's my handshake, plain and true, beneath the evening sky—
Give me clear eyes in the darkness, and you've got yourself a buyer tonight!
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Awesome!
 
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tmxv4128 said:
ODE TO THE 5x59-PRO
I walked into the forum on a dusty Tuesday night,
Looking for a partner that'll treat my fields just right.
Andy grinned and tipped his hat, said, "Son, what'll it be?"
I said, "Before I sign that paper, prove a thing to me."

Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, don't you leave me guessin',
Show me your image quality, that's my one confession.
Are you better than a 5442? That's what I need to know.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
Then you've got my vote, and home we'll go.

Verse 2
Specs and numbers fill the page, but talk is mighty cheap,
I need a clear view after dark when the countryside's asleep.
If you can light the night just right and see through rain and fog,
You'll earn a place beside me in every alligator bog.

Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, don't you leave me guessin',
Show me your image quality, that's my one confession.
Are you better than a 5442? That's what I need to know.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
Then you've got my vote, and home we'll go.

Bridge
It's not about the chrome or shine, or promises they make,
It's about the little things that help you stay awake.
When the moment comes and timing's right,
I want a system that can see the night.

Final Chorus
I'd gladly buy a Series 7, that's the deal I'm makin',
Show me your image quality, no corners left forsaken.
If you're better than a 5442, then let your colors show.
Only if your white light is activated by IVS,
I'll hitch my wagon and never let you go.

Outro
So here's my handshake, plain and true, beneath the evening sky—
Give me clear eyes in the darkness, and you've got yourself a buyer tonight!
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doubt Andy understands this, but it will be a BMW 7 series for me, thanks @bigredfish
 
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johnfitz said:
Dude's a poet!

Or, is it AI? :cool:
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I guessed, AI was involved, but I am probably wrong. If Im not, HEY! Something else it's good for. Now, we need the music to make it a proper song. :)
 
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Wow, so much talent! Next step will be a video of dancing 7-series cameras :).
 
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Never underestimate the talent of ipcamtalk forum members :p
 
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