Love it. You realize I was kidding about the running, right? ha ha Wondering what setting you have for sharpness. I ran mine through several tests and determined that "22" is the best setting. Also, my 2D NR is at 22, but I had to raise the 3D NR to 37. Gain at 50. Any higher leads to artifacts in the darkest areas of the image.
B54PRO-Z4E first impression
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Here's the 4K-X its sitting literally on top of
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AutoExp unfortunately doesn't tell us much about what the camera is doing ... so if you were so motivated, I'm curious what manual shutter/iris/gain settings ... and if you set the 4K-X to the same, how would the relative brightness of that compare?
WRT motion blur: Seems like a bit of an unfair comparison to the 4K-X ... since it is wide-angle and the relative motion of the "test subject" is much less than the zoomed in Z4.
BTW, did I miss the 5442-S3 footage ... as that would be interesting to see side-by-side.
LOL on how chilly (below 70!) out there - thanks for taking one for the team! ;-)
Auto is Auto- No Manual shutter, Gain, Iris settings visible. Factory default
I'm not comparing the blur to the 4K-X, I simply showed that for perspective of the scene lighting as they are stacked touching each other. 4K-X is running 0-5 shutter
5442 S3 Z4 but in B$W/IR not comparing it to this scene in color, I was comparing it to @tmxv4128 's scene
Obviously a different scene, about 50ft, but the 5442 S3 Z4 as far as I'm seeing right now, is superior in B&W/IR to the 54PRO Z4
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Thought it might be interesting to test out the smart illumination feature. It clicked on just in front of the no trespassing sign at 96 feet. It's really dark out there.
"...Obviously a different scene, about 50ft, but the 5442 S3 Z4 as far as I'm seeing right now, is superior in B&W/IR to the 54PRO Z4"
Yes, that's exactly what I think also. This B54PRO-Z4E makes me want to like it, but the B54IR-Z4E-S3 beats the stuffing out of it in terms of low-light capture, sharpness, evenly lit IR, and lack of digital artifacts. Since I have a 4K-X on my driveway, I use it for color identification, but if someone was only able to use one camera for a particular placement, I can see how this could serve double-duty with both IR and warm LED (smart illumination). As an example, I did a search for "Guitar Man" on my NVR and found these clips from a few weeks ago. The B&W of the B54IR-Z4E-S3 is superior to the B54PRO-Z4E, but the latter has it beat for color in the daytime.
Yes, that's exactly what I think also. This B54PRO-Z4E makes me want to like it, but the B54IR-Z4E-S3 beats the stuffing out of it in terms of low-light capture, sharpness, evenly lit IR, and lack of digital artifacts. Since I have a 4K-X on my driveway, I use it for color identification, but if someone was only able to use one camera for a particular placement, I can see how this could serve double-duty with both IR and warm LED (smart illumination). As an example, I did a search for "Guitar Man" on my NVR and found these clips from a few weeks ago. The B&W of the B54IR-Z4E-S3 is superior to the B54PRO-Z4E, but the latter has it beat for color in the daytime.
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That should help 4K sales
but yes, welcome to the 'try and freeze motion at night' club with the 54Pro, I recommend shutter below 2ms, 1.5ms if you can manage it. No logic I know but just facts for now...
That should help 4K sales
Oh I know 2ms will all but eliminate blur on most slow moving targets. But if the noise is such that the face is a garbled mess of digital noise, so what?
I know, just have to push them best possible at the moment, this is one reason I have sharpening off and NR almost zero or sub 10. Keep gain low as I can and suffer dark images
But I totally agree, at night these things are sub par, the 4K and S3 look very good in comparison.Agreed on all points, I am hoping if Dahua can reduce the 'auto' features then maybe night will improve. My concern is the sensor could be the limiting factor here in which case we will be out of luck. If these could match the S3 at night then they would be a big win, my 54ProZE still surprises me now and then at night, other times I want to swap it straight out for the S3 or 4K.
I know, just have to push them best possible at the moment, this is one reason I have sharpening off and NR almost zero or sub 10. Keep gain low as I can and suffer dark images
A night image at 2ms, sharpening off and NR zero or sub 10 would help.
Every other Dahua cam if set to that would be a soft pixelated mess.
Based on what you are saying, if that produces the best image, then it sounds like a ton of processing is already being done on these cams if NR set to zero doesn't result in a pixelated dancing noise mess.