these are upclose pic of my doorways. do you recommend the 3449 Pro for all of them ?
help with IP Camera models
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this is the view from the spot where i'd put the LPR camera looking in both directions, except they'd be higher at 2.5M
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bigredfish
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Actually yes. Though there are new models coming out that may be slightly better, but I doubt you'll see a huge difference.
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Some of those little tree's may have to magically disappear in the middle of the night but yeah looks close
didn't even think of that - but yes they can definitely disappear!
this is where i've ended up with the system so far....all using empiretechs gear.
4 x doorways = 4 x 3449 Pro.
Garage / Driveway = 1 x 5442 varifocal (not sure what exactly i need if i go fixed lens)
Other general locations at corners of the house - 2 x 5442 varifocal (not sure what exactly i need if i go fixed lens)
1 x mini PTZ under eave on first floor
2 x Z12 for LPR purpose only
16 channel NVR
2 x 8TB hard drives
some qs i have are:
should I get the 3.6mm lens option with the 3449 pro ?
are there any additional mounting accessories I need? most of the cams are going straight onto brick except for ptz which will be under eave.
just to confirm I've got the right cameras.
3449 Pro is this one:
EmpireTech IPC-Color4M-T 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP Smart Dual Light Active Deter
4MP 1/1.8" CMOS Built-in multi-core light, Max. IR distance is 30 m, Max. warm light distance is 30 m Intelligent monitoring: Intrusion, Tripwire Supports max. 512 G Micro SD card Built-in dual Mic Support two-way talk IP67 protection Sound and light alarm (red and blue lights) SMD 4.0
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z12 is this one:
EmpireTech IPC-B52IR-Z12E-S2 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 5mm–60mm Ultra Low Light
2MP 1/2.8" CMOS image sensor Built-in IR LED, the max. illumination distance is 150 m Deep learning algorithm Built-in MIC IP67 and IK10 protection SMD 3.0
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mini PTZ is this one:
EmpireTech PTZ425DB-AT 1/2.8"CMOS 4MP 25x Starlight IR 5mm–125mm Vari-
4MP, 1/2.8" CMOS 25x optical zoom Starlight technology Max. 25/30fps@4MP IR distance up to 100 m Auto-tracking 1.0 Perimeter protection Face detection SMD 3.0 IP66
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16CH NVR is this one:
EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2AI 16 Channels 1U 16PoE 2HDD Network Video Rec
Multiple decoding formats Support AcuPick with Max. 16-Channel Support N+M cluster AI by recorder AI by camera Security baseline 2.3
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5442 varifocal is this one:
EmpireTech IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP IR Starlight 2.7mm–12mm Var
4-MP 1/1.8" CMOS image sensor, low luminance, and high definition image. Outputs max. 4MP (2688×1520) @25/30 fps. Built-in IR LED, and the max. illumination distance is 40 m. ROI, SVC, AI H.264/H.265, encoding after filter, flexible coding, applicable to various bandwidth and storage...
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5442 fixed is this one:
EmpireTech IPC-T54IR-AS-S3 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP IR Fixed-focal Turret Netwo
4MP 1/1.8" CMOS image sensor Built-in IR LED, Max. illumination distance is 50 m Deep learning algorithm Supports max. 512 GB Micro SD card Built-in MIC IP67 protection SMD 3.0
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bigredfish
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The only consideration would be stepping up on the NVR the next level but it’s another $250
The advantage is more bandwidth and the ability to run VMD on the recorder while your cameras run IVS. So if money isn’t an issue I’d do that. If budget is stretched don’t worry about it. 90% of folks probably would say it’s not worth it.
@steve1225 your opinion on the upgrade NVR?
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The advantage is more bandwidth and the ability to run VMD on the recorder while your cameras run IVS. So if money isn’t an issue I’d do that. If budget is stretched don’t worry about it. 90% of folks probably would say it’s not worth it.
@steve1225 your opinion on the upgrade NVR?
EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2XI 16CH 1U 16POE 2HDDs Network Video Recorder
Max. decoding capability: 32 × 1080p@30 fps Max. 512/512/512 Mbps incoming/recording/outgoing bandwidth Supports IP cameras with a resolution of up to 32 MP Supports AcuPick with up to 16 channels AI by Recorder AI by Camera Supports N+M cluster, ISCSI Supports EPTZ, and one-click arming and...
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The only consideration would be stepping up on the NVR the next level but it’s another $250
The advantage is more bandwidth and the ability to run VMD on the recorder while your cameras run IVS. So if money isn’t an issue I’d do that. If budget is stretched don’t worry about it. 90% of folks probably would say it’s not worth it.
@steve1225 your opinion on the upgrade NVR?
EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2XI 16CH 1U 16POE 2HDDs Network Video Recorder
Max. decoding capability: 32 × 1080p@30 fps Max. 512/512/512 Mbps incoming/recording/outgoing bandwidth Supports IP cameras with a resolution of up to 32 MP Supports AcuPick with up to 16 channels AI by Recorder AI by Camera Supports N+M cluster, ISCSI Supports EPTZ, and one-click arming and...
At this moment, when Dahua is doing more and more AI features which work only in Dahua ecosystem (cameras + NVR + DMSS app), considering other options than Dahua NVR for small house installations is becoming increasingly pointless.
Especially since we're seeing progress with the mobile app (DMSS) - they've started making something sensible with it.
And from what I'm hearing from internal sources in Dahua Poland, there will be much more of it.
ps. buying NVR smaller than for 16 channels (cameras) is pointless. Very fast there will be need to upgrade it in any serious usage.
I heard that turret cameras don’t require the mounting junction box. They can be mounted on walls and eaves and look much neater on a house that way. But I’m unsure how true this is ?
Also, any issue if say I start with just 1 x Z12 and just capture plates in one direction and add the second one at a later stage?
bigredfish
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Can I just use a 3449 pro 3.6mm at the garage/driveway as well? It’s a few bucks cheaper than a 5442 varifocal.
bigredfish
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I completed my purchase with andy and went for the upgraded NVR.The only consideration would be stepping up on the NVR the next level but it’s another $250
The advantage is more bandwidth and the ability to run VMD on the recorder while your cameras run IVS. So if money isn’t an issue I’d do that. If budget is stretched don’t worry about it. 90% of folks probably would say it’s not worth it.
@steve1225 your opinion on the upgrade NVR?
EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2XI 16CH 1U 16POE 2HDDs Network Video Recorder
Max. decoding capability: 32 × 1080p@30 fps Max. 512/512/512 Mbps incoming/recording/outgoing bandwidth Supports IP cameras with a resolution of up to 32 MP Supports AcuPick with up to 16 channels AI by Recorder AI by Camera Supports N+M cluster, ISCSI Supports EPTZ, and one-click arming and...
For storage, I should use 2 x 8TB drives is that right ?
I’m looking at the WD Purple 3.5” HDDs does it matter whether it’s 5640 or 7200 ?
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Yes dual 8TB is what I use, 7200
I see they have a “Pro” model now? Not sure if this is just marketing or actually better? Would need to do some homework.
I see they have a “Pro” model now? Not sure if this is just marketing or actually better? Would need to do some homework.
i got all the gear and plan to set it all up on a bench in my garage first, i'll be following this guide I got from Andy to initially get stuff up and running:
I was able to get the 2 x 8TB hard drives and did some searching on YT and found this guide, although it is only for 1 x HDD, can i follow it for the HDD install? is there anything else I need to be aware of ? in general having 2 HDDs on the NVR, does this mean the NVR sees it as 16TB - is it some sort of RAID setup or more just when one is full it starts writing to the other?
I was able to get the 2 x 8TB hard drives and did some searching on YT and found this guide, although it is only for 1 x HDD, can i follow it for the HDD install? is there anything else I need to be aware of ? in general having 2 HDDs on the NVR, does this mean the NVR sees it as 16TB - is it some sort of RAID setup or more just when one is full it starts writing to the other?
bigredfish
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Every NVR I’ve owned I simply plugged both HDs in and fired it up. The NVR will format the drives automagically by itself
It will see both drives and simply record to one then switch by itself to #2 when the first is full. Effectively it becomes one drive in default mode. I would leave it be
It will see both drives and simply record to one then switch by itself to #2 when the first is full. Effectively it becomes one drive in default mode. I would leave it be
I followed the YT link to install the HDDs. on the first one, I couldn't make out from the video exactly which holes I was supposed to line up the hard drive with and after I installed it I noticed the power and sata cable plug were bent over like this.
I removed the HDD to re-align it and notice the power and sata were still seated in their slots and I just made the connector straight. I didn't pull the cables out as i didn't want to see what damaged I caused (am hoping none though).
I installed the second HDD no issues.
is there any checks I can do to make sure the HDD is ok ?
I removed the HDD to re-align it and notice the power and sata were still seated in their slots and I just made the connector straight. I didn't pull the cables out as i didn't want to see what damaged I caused (am hoping none though).
I installed the second HDD no issues.
is there any checks I can do to make sure the HDD is ok ?
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with the lpr cam and the way it captures number plates. is it just recording and then when you need to check an incident, do you just scrub through the video and pause it, and take a screenshot?
or is it something else like automatically taking snapshots for example?
the reason I ask is all other cams are straight forward to install, but with lpr cam I need to probably have my installer hold it in position so I can check if its working as intended before holes are drilled. if its as simple as just checking if the video is capturing clear number plates, then he just needs to hold it for a few mins and if it doesnt work , easily lower it till its at the right height.
but if its something more involved, then I might need to put some sort of platform there to check if its working over a period of time and adjust re-test etc.
or is it something else like automatically taking snapshots for example?
the reason I ask is all other cams are straight forward to install, but with lpr cam I need to probably have my installer hold it in position so I can check if its working as intended before holes are drilled. if its as simple as just checking if the video is capturing clear number plates, then he just needs to hold it for a few mins and if it doesnt work , easily lower it till its at the right height.
but if its something more involved, then I might need to put some sort of platform there to check if its working over a period of time and adjust re-test etc.
As others have pointed out in the forum, setting up an LPR camera takes time. Adjustments must be made for both day and night captures. It is more art then science in many cases.
It is something that is done over a matter of weeks or months to make the proper camera adjustments. As has been suggested by others, mount the camera on a ladder or temporary post. Then make changes to your settings for what is needed at your location for that time of day.
Night settings will be completely different depending on lighting conditions, range, B/W vs color etc. It is not set and forget if you are interested in fine tuning the camera for optimum performance under varying lighting conditions.
Take your time, record your settings and make changes to improve the image as needed.
It is something that is done over a matter of weeks or months to make the proper camera adjustments. As has been suggested by others, mount the camera on a ladder or temporary post. Then make changes to your settings for what is needed at your location for that time of day.
Night settings will be completely different depending on lighting conditions, range, B/W vs color etc. It is not set and forget if you are interested in fine tuning the camera for optimum performance under varying lighting conditions.
Take your time, record your settings and make changes to improve the image as needed.