Less sharpness in T54PRO-ZE (versus 5442-S3) possibly due to noise reduction being applied even if set to ZERO?

Has anyone tried messing with Gamma?

This has to be worth a try, mine are arriving tomorrow potentially, I will do a sort of mini review of initial findings so as not to clog up this thread maybe?! I guess NR, Gain and Gamma have to be worth a shot.
 
Per a suggestion from Andy, I tried rolling forward to the 0928 Firmware that he had temporarily released (recall this "reset" the gain scale so that 0-100 was 0-62 on the 0731 firmware) and the NR is still happening (easily seen on my street/driveway) - again, gain=ZERO and 2D/3D NR is set to zero. Daytime with shutter speed set to 1/100s (and same exposure at 1/200s) so there is plenty of light.

I ALSO tried using the 0827 firmware direct from Dahua ... but this also made no difference. The "gain scale" is easiest to check at night, so I'll do that to see if it is "0-100" or "0-62"


WRT Gamma: I tried this on all three firmware's and it made no difference in the NR. Setting it to a lower value results in a darker image ... and "35-40'" on the T54PRO-ZE was semi-close to what "50" shows on the 5442-S3 ... during the day - TBD at night.

WRT Sharpening: This does make a difference ... but looks like it is sharpening an image that has also been NR'd ... so if something has been "smeared" out (even with NR=0), there's ain't much to sharpen there!

WRT Iris: I did try changing from 100 to 50 ... but that made no difference on the NR issue. FYI that I did confirm it's "working" as (in manual mode), I set the shutter to 0.01msec (1/10000s shutter) and at IRIS=50, I got a dimmed image ... and then brightened up when I set IRIS=100.
 
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Per a suggestion from Andy, I tried rolling forward to the 0928 Firmware that he had temporarily released (recall this "reset" the gain scale so that 0-100 was 0-62 on the 0731 firmware) and the NR is still happening (easily seen on my street/driveway) - again, gain=ZERO and 2D/3D NR is set to zero. Daytime with shutter speed set to 1/100s (and same exposure at 1/200s) so there is plenty of light.

I ALSO tried using the 0827 firmware direct from Dahua ... but this also made no difference. The "gain scale" is easiest to check at night, so I'll do that to see if it is "0-100" or "0-62"


WRT Gamma: I tried this on all three firmware's and it made no difference in the NR. Setting it to a lower value results in a darker image ... and "35-40'" on the T54PRO-ZE was semi-close to what "50" shows on the 5442-S3 ... during the day - TBD at night.

WRT Sharpening: This does make a difference ... but looks like it is sharpening an image that has also been NR'd ... so if something has been "smeared" out (even with NR=0), there's ain't much to sharpen there!

WRT Iris: I did try changing from 100 to 50 ... but that made no difference on the NR issue. FYI that I did confirm it's "working" as (in manual mode), I set the shutter to 0.01msec (1/10000s shutter) and at IRIS=50, I got a dimmed image ... and then brightened up when I set IRIS=100.

Appreciate the feedback and update, sounds like waiting for another firmware update at some point. Should I stick with 0731 at this point when mine arrives?
 
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Per a suggestion from Andy, I tried rolling forward to the 0928 Firmware that he had temporarily released (recall this "reset" the gain scale so that 0-100 was 0-62 on the 0731 firmware) and the NR is still happening (easily seen on my street/driveway) - again, gain=ZERO and 2D/3D NR is set to zero. Daytime with shutter speed set to 1/100s (and same exposure at 1/200s) so there is plenty of light.

I ALSO tried using the 0827 firmware direct from Dahua ... but this also made no difference. The "gain scale" is easiest to check at night, so I'll do that to see if it is "0-100" or "0-62"


WRT Gamma: I tried this on all three firmware's and it made no difference in the NR. Setting it to a lower value results in a darker image ... and "35-40'" on the T54PRO-ZE was semi-close to what "50" shows on the 5442-S3 ... during the day - TBD at night.

WRT Sharpening: This does make a difference ... but looks like it is sharpening an image that has also been NR'd ... so if something has been "smeared" out (even with NR=0), there's ain't much to sharpen there!

WRT Iris: I did try changing from 100 to 50 ... but that made no difference on the NR issue. FYI that I did confirm it's "working" as (in manual mode), I set the shutter to 0.01msec (1/10000s shutter) and at IRIS=50, I got a dimmed image ... and then brightened up when I set IRIS=100.

Thanks, that all makes sense unfortunately.

Saved me some time when mine arrive, appreciate your efforts

Time to play with codec options?
 
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I've tried various codec combinations - doesn't seem to change it.

I have a 2nd T54PRO-ZE coming (hopefully before the wife gets back!) and yea, I'll probably stick with 0731 (Andy has removed the 0928 firmware) unless someone shows something significant worth upgrading too.

To be clear, I'm pretty happy with the improvement in low-light of the T54PRO-ZE over the 5442-S3 and have already replaced that as the "production" camera.

But being a "pixel-peeper", there's a couple of things that I think can be improved upon ... and/or maybe I'm just not smart enough yet on how to fix 'em myself! ;-)
 
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