Check Indian media which are mostly pro Israel but because it was a Gandhi hospital it was reported. Since all other Middle Eastern news sites including from Turkey, RT will be called propaganda.
Is the regime in Iran soon to be toast?
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Oceanslider
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What exactly is authentic news sources and narrative. Our own leader calls them fake news.
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Amazon needs to provide it's data and operations security team with a few these puppies
Amazon says it could take at least a day to restore data centers hit by 'objects' in the UAE
Amazon says it could take at least a day to restore data centers hit by 'objects' in the UAE
Oceanslider
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No source is perfect.
The difference is that real news outlets usually verify things with multiple sources before reporting them. Social media posts and aggregators often just repeat claims.
If something major really happened, it usually ends up reported by several independent outlets, not just circulating online.
Ssayer
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I love that phrase, "real news outlets"... vs unapproved outlets? Just saying... 
Ssayer
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It's a shame when you can't believe the news, pictures, video, etc... Heck, I've seen what even "I" can make with AI. My family loves what I can come up with using AI. Personally, it is one of the few things that I actually DO find scary...
Oceanslider
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I just mean outlets that have editors, sources, and corrections when they get things wrong.I love that phrase, "real news outlets"... vs unapproved outlets? Just saying...
Social media accounts and aggregators don’t really have that layer of verification. I don’t fully trust major outlets either, but at least their reporting can usually be traced and checked.
Oceanslider
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So for me, if something that big happened and six days later none of the major outlets are reporting it, that usually means the claim isn’t accurate. And unfortunately, once something spreads online, a lot of people take it as truth even if it’s never verified.
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Verification? Corrections?? Do you mean like? (and if you like, I can provide many many more...)
11 Major Stories (Last ~10 Years) Where Media Narratives Were Later Corrected
1. Covington Catholic Student Incident (2019)
- Early viral clips showed student Nicholas Sandmann seemingly mocking Native American activist Nathan Phillips.
- Many outlets portrayed him as the aggressor.
- Longer footage showed Phillips approached the students, changing the context.
- Sandmann later won settlements from CNN, Washington Post, NBC, etc.
2. Jussie Smollett Hate Crime (2019)
- Actor Jussie Smollett claimed he was attacked by racist Trump supporters.
- Media widely treated the claim as fact.
- Police later concluded Smollett staged the attack himself, and he was convicted of disorderly conduct.
3. Hunter Biden Laptop “Russian Disinformation” Narrative (2020)
- Many outlets suggested the laptop story might be Russian disinformation before verification.
- Later reporting confirmed many emails were authentic and part of an ongoing investigation.
4. COVID-19 Lab Leak Theory (2020-2021)
- Early coverage frequently described the lab-leak hypothesis as a conspiracy theory.
- Later investigations by U.S. agencies and scientists concluded it was plausible and worth investigating.
5. Steele Dossier Claims (2016-2019)
- Media repeatedly reported allegations from the Steele dossier (including kompromat claims about Trump).
- Later investigations found key claims unverified or unsupported.
6. Russian Bounties on U.S. Soldiers (2020)
- Reports claimed Russia paid Taliban fighters bounties for killing U.S. troops.
- Intelligence reviews later said evidence was low confidence or unverified.
7. Covington Lawsuits & Media Settlements
- Major outlets paid settlements after early reporting mischaracterized the event.
8. “Border Patrol Whipping Migrants” Story (2021)
- Early reports said mounted agents whipped migrants in Texas.
- Later investigations found no whipping occurred; reins were mistaken for whips.
9. Bubba Wallace “Garage Pull” Hate Crime (2020)
- Initially reported as a racist noose targeting NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace.
- FBI later determined it was a garage door pull rope installed months earlier.
10. Duke Volleyball Racism Incident (2022)
- Claim that BYU fans yelled racial slurs at a Duke player gained national coverage.
- Investigations found no evidence of racial slurs.
11. Kyle Rittenhouse Case Coverage (2020)
- Some coverage framed the shootings as racially motivated or murder.
- Court evidence showed the victims were white and Rittenhouse was acquitted on self-defense grounds.
Ssayer
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@Oceanslider: I'm not trying to be argumentative here, as I don't believe ANY media anymore be it MSM, GCM, or Social. Quoting any of them like they're the singular reputable source is simply setting yourself up to be fooled...
Oceanslider
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But most of those examples actually prove the point. The stories were investigated further, challenged, and corrected over time. That doesn’t really happen with random social media posts.
It’s not about trusting everything the media says, it’s about having something that can be checked and questioned.
Show me one major news outlet that is reporting the Hospital story.
Oceanslider
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And this looks like another example... a social media account posting dramatic claims and videos, but still nothing from major outlets confirming it.
There are many of these since this war started being posted in this and the politics thread.
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I don't know if you find this to be a reputable source or not, or even if it concerns this particular incident, but...
www.theguardian.com
At least 13 hospitals and health facilities hit during attacks on Iran, WHO says
Global health body investigating reports that four medics are among the 1,230 people killed in Iran since start of war
www.theguardian.com
What major outlets are saying
- The World Health Organization says at least 13 hospitals and health facilities in Iran have been hit or affected during the current U.S.–Israel strikes.
- Some facilities were directly damaged or forced to evacuate patients due to nearby explosions.
- One widely discussed case involves Gandhi Hospital in Tehran, where a nearby strike damaged an IVF/fertility clinic associated with the hospital.
- The broader bombing campaign has reportedly damaged thousands of civilian structures, including infrastructure and medical facilities.
Translated from Hebrew
Israel must destroy all of Iran's oil fields and energy industry on Kharg Island; that is what will cripple Iran's economy and topple the regime. This war must end when the regime in Iran has fallen, the nuclear facilities have been destroyed, all of the ballistic missile industry has been destroyed, and Hezbollah has been destroyed in Lebanon.
Israel must destroy all of Iran's oil fields and energy industry on Kharg Island; that is what will cripple Iran's economy and topple the regime. This war must end when the regime in Iran has fallen, the nuclear facilities have been destroyed, all of the ballistic missile industry has been destroyed, and Hezbollah has been destroyed in Lebanon.
Ssayer
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Anyway....... I'll just leave this here. I just ask that you never forget that, "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
I think some get confused about X
The posts are much like Drudge Report in a way. Individual people and organizations post. It’s not posted by “X”
In this case it’s close to 1/2 Billion people. Plus ALL of the News organizations you can think of. They ALL use X to post news and opinion. Just like the White House and just about every single government official you can name.
Much like (pick your favorite news source) some are good, some bad, some propaganda. Just like Fox. (Who posts A LOT on X)
Saying you don’t “trust” X is saying you don’t trust ANY news.
I don’t trust or post 1/100 of the content I see and read. Like all of you, I try my best to post what I believe is real. Sometimes I am proved wrong.
But if you trust for instance Fox News on something you agree with and then turn around and don’t trust something else from Fox News because it goes against your belief system, you’re not serious about learning the truth
The posts are much like Drudge Report in a way. Individual people and organizations post. It’s not posted by “X”
In this case it’s close to 1/2 Billion people. Plus ALL of the News organizations you can think of. They ALL use X to post news and opinion. Just like the White House and just about every single government official you can name.
Much like (pick your favorite news source) some are good, some bad, some propaganda. Just like Fox. (Who posts A LOT on X)
Saying you don’t “trust” X is saying you don’t trust ANY news.
I don’t trust or post 1/100 of the content I see and read. Like all of you, I try my best to post what I believe is real. Sometimes I am proved wrong.
But if you trust for instance Fox News on something you agree with and then turn around and don’t trust something else from Fox News because it goes against your belief system, you’re not serious about learning the truth
Former Speaker of Iran,
Translated from Arabic
A number of American soldiers have been taken prisoner. However, they are promoting a misleading narrative claiming that five or six American soldiers have been killed. Then, soon enough, with the passage of time, they gradually increase the number of the dead, under various pretexts, such as incidental accidents or fabricated incidents.
Translated from Arabic
A number of American soldiers have been taken prisoner. However, they are promoting a misleading narrative claiming that five or six American soldiers have been killed. Then, soon enough, with the passage of time, they gradually increase the number of the dead, under various pretexts, such as incidental accidents or fabricated incidents.