My mistake, I entered the name and came across this 180 camera. You meant this camera, right? ?
Worlds First Review - Dahua DH-IPC-HDW5849H-ASE-LED / IPC-Color4K-T - 2.8mm Turret
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Thank you but unfortunately this item is currently not available at your location. ( Germany )
Can be fixed up at DE afternoon time today. So you check it later.Thank you.
Okay, all clear. I'll have another look later. Thanks for the help.
I asked before if I can update the camera with Dahua's latest firmware as EmpireTek doesn't seem to update the camera's firmware at all. But this is not possible. It uploads the file but after that it shows this message : "Update package invalid and update failed. Device will restart immediately. "
As it is probably impossible for a one person (?) company to maintain all the firmware from all sold devices, I decided only to buy original Dahua products and put this camera back in it's box.
I should have known..If it is too good to be true, it probably is
And I had it with the Bitdefender warnings and actively trying to disinfect the browser plugin.
As it is probably impossible for a one person (?) company to maintain all the firmware from all sold devices, I decided only to buy original Dahua products and put this camera back in it's box.
I should have known..If it is too good to be true, it probably is
And I had it with the Bitdefender warnings and actively trying to disinfect the browser plugin.
But from what I see firmwares on Andy site are fresh ones..
And the same I see on Dahua website and two internal Dahua firmware repositories.
You probably downloaded wrong firmware for wrong camera.
Color4K have different firmware for bullet (Color4K-X) and turret (Color4k-T) - Dahua used different chipset for both models.
Or didn't uncompress zip file, which contain *.bin file with firmware.
If You want You can download firmware from original Dahua site:
in the middle You have search box, where You must put full Dahua model name for camera and it will show matching firmwares..
Be aware that there are two versions of IPC-HDW5849H-ASE-LED - each with different firmware on Dahua website.. For Andy cam You must use Taurus version (not Meta-Taurus)..
I should have known..If it is too good to be true, it probably is
And I had it with the Bitdefender warnings and actively trying to disinfect the browser plugin.
The same is with original Dahua cams/NVR..
It's not Andy thing, but general problem with Chinese CCTV companies (both HikVision and Dahua), which didn't migrated to full html5 video streaming and still are using ancient plugin technology.
ps. I am a big proponent of upgrading the firmware to the latest versions (unlike many other users on this forum) but in the case of Color4K I would advise against it. The latest firmware versions released by Dahua have very high digital sharpening and image processing - this causes a lot of digital noise. Older firmware versions generate a more natural image.
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What feature are you needing from a firmware? This is a Camera not an IoT device that has contestant security updates.I asked before if I can update the camera with Dahua's latest firmware as EmpireTek doesn't seem to update the camera's firmware at all. But this is not possible. It uploads the file but after that it shows this message : "Update package invalid and update failed. Device will restart immediately. "
As it is probably impossible for a one person (?) company to maintain all the firmware from all sold devices, I decided only to buy original Dahua products and put this camera back in it's box.
I should have known..If it is too good to be true, it probably is
And I had it with the Bitdefender warnings and actively trying to disinfect the browser plugin.
Camera 101, don't update firmware unless something is broken or you need a new/updated feature. Security is not an issue since All Cameras should Never have Internet access...
I asked before if I can update the camera with Dahua's latest firmware as EmpireTek doesn't seem to update the camera's firmware at all. But this is not possible. It uploads the file but after that it shows this message : "Update package invalid and update failed. Device will restart immediately. "
As it is probably impossible for a one person (?) company to maintain all the firmware from all sold devices, I decided only to buy original Dahua products and put this camera back in it's box.
I should have known..If it is too good to be true, it probably is
And I had it with the Bitdefender warnings and actively trying to disinfect the browser plugin.
Newer firmware on Dahua's website does not mean it is newer or better than what EmpireTech has.
You can update the firmware on Andy's cameras and NVRs from the Dahua website, thus proving they are real Dahua. But you will find that the firmware we get from him is actually better and more recent than what is on the Dahua website because many members here provide feedback to Andy and then Dahua makes modifications to the firmware and sends back to him and then he sends out to his customers. These have been great improvements that Dahua doesn't even update their firmware and add to their website. So many of us are running a newer firmware than those that purchase Dahua cameras through professional installers. Smart IR on the 5442 series is one such improvement. Autotracking on the 49225 and 49425 PTZ is another. We got the next version of AI SMD 3.0 prior to anyone else as well.
Look at the threads here where members are actually testing firmware and improving it for Dahua - find a Dahua dealer with that type of relationship that Andy has with Dahua - I don't think you will find it. Look at the Dahua 4k camera on the 1/1.2" sensor as an example - Dahua provides cameras to Andy to sell before Dahua even made it available and look at all the improvements being made to the firmware from input from customers right here on this site. And the kicker is, we are not Dahua's target market - it is the professional installers...
And then maybe months later Dahua decides to update their firmware to include the improvements they made to the EmpireTech camera firmware. So there firmware will show a newer date, but it is actually the firmware EmpireTech customers have been running for months....
And as someone said, no reason to fix what ain't broke. We see too many instances where a perfectly good working camera for someone gets "broke" with an update because sometimes intentionally the manufacturer removes a feature the person was using and loses it when updating...
thx!But from what I see firmwares on Andy site are fresh ones..
And the same I see on Dahua website and two internal Dahua firmware repositories.
You probably downloaded wrong firmware for wrong camera.
Color4K have different firmware for bullet (Color4K-X) and turret (Color4k-T) - Dahua used different chipset for both models.
Or didn't uncompress zip file, which contain *.bin file with firmware.
If You want You can download firmware from original Dahua site:
in the middle You have search box, where You must put full Dahua model name for camera and it will show matching firmwares..
Be aware that there are two versions of IPC-HDW5849H-ASE-LED - each with different firmware on Dahua website.. For Andy cam You must use Taurus version (not Meta-Taurus)..
The same is with original Dahua cams/NVR..
It's not Andy thing, but general problem with Chinese CCTV companies (both HikVision and Dahua), which didn't migrated to full html5 video streaming and still are using ancient plugin technology.
ps. I am a big proponent of upgrading the firmware to the latest versions (unlike many other users on this forum) but in the case of Color4K I would advise against it. The latest firmware versions released by Dahua have very high digital sharpening and image processing - this causes a lot of digital noise. Older firmware versions generate a more natural image.
Well in my recent random buying spree, I picked up two of these in turret 2.8mm format. Decided why not try them on the two main doorways, covered by additional floodlights. In the real world, is the close focus distance a show stopper compared to the usual suspects. @Wildcat_1 Superb videos makes this seem like less of a problem than it looks on paper. One would be covering a double driveway approximately 25 feet deep and the other a paved patio area approximately 15-20ft wide by 35ft long. I guess if someone walks right up to the door they will be out of focus, realistically even the current 5442 covering these is getting mostly top of someone's head at that close range, although it would be in reasonably good focus.
I really got to stop buying cameras without researching these facts was sucked in by that large sensor and all those mega pickles 
I really got to stop buying cameras without researching these facts
was sucked in by that large sensor and all those mega pickles I haven't had a problem with the close focus distance, especially if it is adequately illuminated. You should be fine. Here is an example of a 4K-X (6mm) camera that I was setting up, and someone walked 7 feet in front of it. (The 4K-X in 6mm is notorious for not being in focus until 25'+.) He is out of focus, but I think the pic is acceptable. (The telephone pole is 50' away.) I have all three 4K-X cams (2.8mm, 3.6mm, and 6mm, and a 4k-T (2.8mm), and the cameras work great at all distances.Well in my recent random buying spree, I picked up two of these in turret 2.8mm format. Decided why not try them on the two main doorways, covered by additional floodlights. In the real world, is the close focus distance a show stopper compared to the usual suspects. @Wildcat_1 Superb videos makes this seem like less of a problem than it looks on paper. One would be covering a double driveway approximately 25 feet deep and the other a paved patio area approximately 15-20ft wide by 35ft long. I guess if someone walks right up to the door they will be out of focus, realistically even the current 5442 covering these is getting mostly top of someone's head at that close range, although it would be in reasonably good focus.
I really got to stop buying cameras without researching these facts
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Thanks, I guess it is all relative, a slightly out of focus 8MP image could look reasonable compared to a mostly in focus 4MP image. I am trying to talk myself into the 4K-T here
In all seriousness, for a full body shot someone would normally be around 6-8ft or even 8-10ft away from the camera, rare that someone would be 3-5ft away, if so this would be a head shot and likely not in focus anyway. Always trade offs I guess, shall get one of the 2.8mm turrets installed and see how things work out.
StevenFromTexas
Getting comfortable
As far as the IPC-Color4K-T is concerned, it can make a great overview camera. To steal a Geico phrase when setting up the camera, it's so easy, a caveman could do it. I use the 3.6mm version for my Garage Out overview camera pointed toward the street in front of my house. Video from that camera often makes it to ones I post here and there. It is one of the best cameras Dahua makes and Dahua dropped the ball by not coming out with a varifocal version.
I figured it was too good to pass, maybe should have gone with the bullet for closer focus and depth of field, turrets always looks cleaner on the front of a house. Seems like a lot of camera for the money, I doubt those sensors are cheap compared to others Dahua use.
bigredfish
Known around here
In my experience there is softness inside of 6ft.
4K-T turret 3.6mm
Ferns at 6ft
4K-X bullet 3.6mm
Bumper is 7ft
4K-T turret 3.6mm
Ferns at 6ft
4K-X bullet 3.6mm
Bumper is 7ft
Yep, but softness up close is the price paid for a large aperture and subsequent reduced depth of field.