Dahua WizColor 5x59-PRO and SmartLight 5x59-IL new series

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Keep in mind folks, we were seeing the limitations of the PRO series cameras all the way back in October 2024....Granted they were the 2x and 3x series, but it appears material build quality and few bells/whistles separated those from the 5x series.

General consensus then was they were brighter than say the 5442 series, but motion was a blur....

caveat emptor


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Arjun said:
When I saw the price of the -IL being $259 yesterday, I was sticker-shocked. I really pray that Ubiquiti considers incorporating settings for controlling shutter speed / exposure so that I can move away from all of these Chinese companies once and for all due to unstable pricing. Like you said, there is no accountability. For now, I don't really need any new cameras, but I know some friends and family that will like to upgrade, but now I am hesitant to recommend these Dahua cameras mainly due to price. It sucks that the 5442 cameras are reached EOL. I can't even sell any more of my own used cameras due to the lack of better cameras available from Dahua. Going all out Ubiquiti is not something I ever considered and I certainly hope it does not go to that extent. I have already started recommending the Ubiquiti Starter Kit for $699 to colleagues, friends, and family after they were hesitant to consider other alternatives to the 5442 model. This really affects Andy's business and also signals parting away from the forum as it is heavily driven by his sales; very rarely do I see new discussions on Hikvision and Ubiquiti here.

We have no evidence that the -IL model is better than the 5442 and/or it resolves the woes of last year's models which got a lot of backlash here on the forum.
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Have we seen what ubiquiti's next move is - raise prices or put in inferior components to keep the price down?

Andy has done a great job of keeping prices down and mentioned he is only raising prices as the existing stock goes down.

I think the price increases on components should have everyone questioning their purchases moving forward - some companies like Ring, with the backing of Amazon, may keep their prices the same, while others may have to increase based on component costs. And then we will have some that will increase because everyone else does, but also goes to lower quality components to lower their costs and increase profits.

I think we have concluded the IL model is like all the PRO models that produce a brighter static image but at the cost of blur with motion.
 
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wittaj said:
Have we seen what ubiquiti's next move is - raise prices or put in inferior components to keep the price down?

Andy has done a great job of keeping prices down and mentioned he is only raising prices as the existing stock goes down.

I think the price increases on components should have everyone questioning their purchases moving forward - some companies like Ring, with the backing of Amazon, may keep their prices the same, while others may have to increase based on component costs. And then we will have some that will increase because everyone else does, but also goes to lower quality components to lower their costs and increase profits.

I think we have concluded the IL model is like all the PRO models that produce a brighter static image but at the cost of blur with motion.
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Ring prices stay the same because they were overly priced piece of crap to begin with
What Ubiquiti is doing is essentially price-gouging - they incorporate memory surcharges into some of their newly released camera models as well. What is bad about Ubiquiti is that each of their cameras cannot be independently configured in its respective user interface and it relies on being configured through an NVR exclusively.
I think as you said, we have to question our purchases and see if it is even a viable path at this time.
We need to follow the "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" mentality - there is no need to always upgrade when that upgrade can actually be seen as a downgrade.
Its too bad not everyone sees the necessity of cameras.
 
wittaj said:
Have we seen what ubiquiti's next move is - raise prices or put in inferior components to keep the price down?

Andy has done a great job of keeping prices down and mentioned he is only raising prices as the existing stock goes down.

I think the price increases on components should have everyone questioning their purchases moving forward - some companies like Ring, with the backing of Amazon, may keep their prices the same, while others may have to increase based on component costs. And then we will have some that will increase because everyone else does, but also goes to lower quality components to lower their costs and increase profits.

I think we have concluded the IL model is like all the PRO models that produce a brighter static image but at the cost of blur with motion.
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Same camera, fewer features.

“ Product segmentation “
 
Would it be fair to say that maybe Dahua should focus on quality over quantity approach, with regards to the range of cameras. This would massively reduce development and associated costs, allow them to bring out quality cameras like the previous 5442 and 4K series, and surely keep their customer base happy. I say all of this and fully accept that a lot of customers only care about whether it is 6 or 8 megapixels, without giving a second thought to actual footage quality. Also, object detection is all well and good, along with Ai and other add ons, but maybe focus on the image quality initially, then look to work on the extras. Mainly they should just buy in and install quality sensors, until such a time that their 'own' are suitable for mass market.
 
CamCrazy said:
Would it be fair to say that maybe Dahua should focus on quality over quantity approach, with regards to the range of cameras. This would massively reduce development and associated costs, allow them to bring out quality cameras like the previous 5442 and 4K series, and surely keep their customer base happy. I say all of this and fully accept that a lot of customers only care about whether it is 6 or 8 megapixels, without giving a second thought to actual footage quality. Also, object detection is all well and good, along with Ai and other add ons, but maybe focus on the image quality initially, then look to work on the extras. Mainly they should just buy in and install quality sensors, until such a time that their 'own' are suitable for mass market.
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LOL

Its the same as any other manufacturing industry.

Profits come first.
Bells n Whistles drive profits because the consumer is a lazy fucking idiot and not only doesn't know the difference, he won't spend 5 minutes TO know the difference
 
JPmedia said:
I don't think you're using this far from home or even possibly at home. It's 230 volts and uses a special VEAM mains plug. At 24000-watt output, you're drawing over 100 amps at 230 volts. In some small homes, that would be over the limit of a 100-amp electrical system
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When not on a studio power grid they are always usually run on gennys.:)

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