Pick your definition, its still overwhelmingly accurate Lets see yours...
I get it Republicans spend more money, Dems don't...NGO kickbacks...hmmm...I am sure there are a few Republicans in that scam too. But the GDP is the key factor of a Recession or it use to be until the Dems changed that definition.Didn’t think so
I get it Republicans spend more money, Dems don't...NGO kickbacks...hmmm...I am sure there are a few Republicans in that scam too. But the GDP is the key factor of a Recession or it use to be until the Dems changed that definition.
Haha, My GDP has been on the decline ever since I semi-retired. Wish I had time to do all the research you do but I am limited mornings only until the wife grabs me and puts me to work on her GDP List. lolOk so let’s see your list. ?

I dealt with this a few years ago and forgot a lot of the details. It looks like there are 2 separate clocks, one for contributions and the other for roth conversions, and of course they have different rules. Another tax mess from the politicians that supposedly represent us. It could have been simpler, but when does congress do that?Now I'm finding that each tranche you rollover into the Roth has a separate 5 year clock.

Um, this is the money/econimics thread…
Point me to a spam post
Trump administration officials have been warned for weeks by representatives of some of the biggest airlines in the world that rising jet-fuel prices for airline giants amid the Iran war has become a significant problem both for the companies and consumers as ticket prices start to go up.
Yeah, this looks like a perfectly normal and healthy market chart.
These type of headlines are becoming more and more common over the past 6-8 weeks.
Golden Age baby!
Notice its almost exclusively Consumer facing businesses. The 7-8 big "AI" companies (which essentially ARE the market now) are seeing record profits..... if you believe their books!
(Hint: Circular financing which has been discussed here before. They're basically "investing" in each other)
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Drip, drip, drip
Drip, drip, drip
This one should make your peepee shrivel a little ..
Drip, drip, drip
Consumers are ‘running out of money’ and cutting back, CEOs warn.
“They’re literally running out of money at the end of the month,” Kraft Heinz Co. Chief Executive Officer Steve Cahillane said in an interview this week. “We’re seeing negative cash flows in the lower-income brackets where they’re dipping into savings.”
“The war in Iran amplified consumer concerns about the cost of living,” Whirlpool Corp. CEO Marc Bitzer said Thursday on a call with analysts.
In fast food, McDonald’s Corp. CEO Chris Kempczinski said confidence among shoppers isn’t improving and may be getting worse. The Chicago-based company cited “heightened anxiety” and gas prices that disproportionately impact low-income consumers.
How do you think this will turn out?
7 companies using circle jerk financing are the only thing keeping the markets and the economy floating. This is how they’re doing it
Big Tech cash is disappearing at a RAPID PACE:
Combined free cash flow across Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, and Oracle is projected to FALL more than -70%, to ~$100 billion, by the end of 2026.This figure peaked at ~$250 billion in early 2024, even as trailing net income continues surging toward a record ~$450 billion.
This comes as AI capital expenditure is consuming nearly every dollar, with the combined 2026 CapEx expected to surpass $715 billion.In simple terms, these companies are reporting record profits on paper while simultaneously running out of actual cash, forcing them to issue a projected $175 billion in new debt in 2026 alone, more than 6 times the pre-AI cycle average, according to BofA.
When earnings and cash flow move in opposite directions this aggressively, equity valuations built on earnings alone become extremely fragile.
Another one
and another
The U.S. Treasury will likely have borrowed more than $2 trillion by the end of the fiscal year—a figure described as “beyond scary” by budget hawks.
https://bit.ly/3OLMra4
U.S. Treasury will have to borrow $2 trillion this year just to continue functioning—more than $166 billion every month
This is more important than anything going on in the Persian Gulf
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Just five companies - Alphabet, Nvidia, Amazon, Broadcom and Apple - have accounted for half of the S&P 500's growth since April
A drip here, a drip there…
You have no idea of my background
Trump is right and everyone before him for 40 years, including the military, is wrong. Got it.
Good for ya'll, Smart...No financial expert here, but we'll be converting/rollover wife's IRA 100% to her Roth this year.
Will take a huge tax hit, but even at 4% growth, it will be breakeven in about 4 years and then tax free growth forever. And of course no RMD's
Only thing left is my 401K but that will have to wait till next year.
The thing isnt really just the tax bracket for one year, its IRMAA increases, loss of Senior tax deduction, etc. Adds up when MAGI hits certain threshholds.
The thing I'm having trouble with is the 5yr rule.
I'm getting different answers on how thats applied. I originally thought it was as long as your Roth had been open 5 years and you were over age 59 1/2
Now I'm finding that each tranche you rollover into the Roth has a separate 5 year clock.

So should we open a small ROTH (conversion) now so we can start the 5 year rule? Not sure I fully understand the 5 year rule I know it is about withdrawals and no taxes, but does that also apply to our kids after we pass, sounds like we may need to start one. But is it for the money put in (conversion) for the year it was put in that the 5 year rule starts for that money? lol I am confusing myself.I dealt with this a few years ago and forgot a lot of the details. It looks like there are 2 separate clocks, one for contributions and the other for roth conversions, and of course they have different rules. Another tax mess from the politicians that supposedly represent us. It could have been simpler, but when does congress do that?
This is from Fidelity's explanation if you haven't already seen it:
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Too funny, in away, I got on this morning and thought @bigredfish was up all night posting, lol...got to the end to find it was just your post listing his postEverything is economics. "It's the economy, stupid".
I can point you to these 17 unbroken posts in this thread, and let others apply their own definition of "spam posting".
Right back atcha.
Do you? Iran has been the #1 cause of terrorism in those decades. They're responsible for hundreds of thousands of terrorism deaths. They want to be the enemy of the US because they declared themselves enemies of the US. The tragedy is that only 20% of Iran wishes this to be so, and that the other 80% suffer the tyranny of the 20% murderous extremists.
Everything is economics. "It's the economy, stupid".
I can point you to these 17 unbroken posts in this thread, and let others apply their own definition of "spam posting".
Right back atcha.
Do you? Iran has been the #1 cause of terrorism in those decades. They're responsible for hundreds of thousands of terrorism deaths. They want to be the enemy of the US because they declared themselves enemies of the US. The tragedy is that only 20% of Iran wishes this to be so, and that the other 80% suffer the tyranny of the 20% murderous extremists.