EOM (End of Marketing and Sales) for 5442-S3 announced
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Chokolinho
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4MP model comes with a 1/1.8 sensor and includes blue/red warning lights, alarm, IR, and white light. The 8MP version features a larger 1/1.2 sensor but only has white light.
Arjun
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Since we got no update, I assume its another fail at this point for Dahua
Chokolinho
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I still have a little hope for this camera.Since we got no update, I assume its another fail at this point for Dahua
I have a 6mm HDW5459TM-ASE-IL side-by-side with an S3. By "with people" do you mean for detection or identification? I'll answer both. Detection-wise, it's almost as good as the S3. In general, it detects a person a few seconds later than the S3, and very occasionally not at all. If there's a case where both cameras miss detecting a person, I wouldn't be aware of it. Identification-wise, the IL is a bit better with low light images, so there might be fringe cases where the IL could provide an ID and the S3 couldn't. These cameras don't see many people in their FOV, so my comments represent a pretty small data sample.
Chokolinho
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That sounds good at first glance. I could order a couple of them at $240 each. I want to replace the 54 Pro cameras and am looking for replacements so I can get a good freeze-frame image.
Techie007L
Getting the hang of it
Yes, the IPC-Color4K-T/X cameras are amazing. The only thing that could make them significantly better would be if they could get the WizColor technology from the Color4M-TL added to the Color4K-T/X cameras—this would enable them to see much better at night (brightness and color) and improve their contrast management (daytime high contrast scenes wouldn't be so washed out or dark, and snowy scenes would be white with full contrast instead of a pale gray). For example, with the Color4M-TL, the darkened dock in video #2 would look just like video #1, the trees to the left wouldn't go to black, and the last video would not be so dark (however, due to its resolution being just under half, the image wouldn't be so crisp either).
Depends which 4M camera you're referring to:
- The Color4M-T (now $185) is junk. Fuzzy over-sharpened image with AI artifacts, lacking detail, major contrast issues, color issues. It cannot be overstated how bad this camera is, and the unclear naming scheme is unfortunate. No comparison to the Color-4K series cameras! Only buy it if you need the speaker, red/blue police lights, and the stealth IR ability paired with switching to white when motion is detected—and don't care about actual image quality. In my testing, it was so bad there were times (usually dusk) when I couldn't tell whether I was viewing the main stream or the 720p sub stream!
- The Color4M-TL (now $110) is a great camera—if you don't need IR, it's better than the renowned 5442s IMHO. I would characterize it as the "little brother" to the Color4K-T camera, having just under half the resolution (my testing suggests it's actually a 1440p camera, so you'll want to drop the resolution to 1440p to avoid the gridlike clear/fuzzy artifacts from the image upscaling it does at 1520p—which puts it at 3.7MP to the Color4K's 8.3MP. You'll also want to adjust its image parameters as follows out of the box: Mode=Self-adaptive, Style=Standard, Saturation=55, Sharpness=25, Gamma=45, 2D NR Level=15, and reboot to lock in the 2D NR setting for maximum clarity). I would say this camera actually sees better than the Color4K-T at night—for reference, a scene lit by a full moon looks just like broad daylight, only with some motion blur. The Color4K-T can also see in full moonlight, but it doesn't look light broad daylight (the image is dim and pale) and the motion blur is worse.
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Having played with these for a number of years, I have learned that "bright" doesn't equal "quality" image.
We went through this with the 54PRO and the 3 series TIOC PRO (4M-T)
I'd love to see some video with that 4M-TL (Is that the Dahua IL series?) as described by your settings.
We can make many cameras "brighter" but that usually comes with motion blur and less quality image. I can almost guarantee there is no comparison to it and the 4K-T/X
I'd just caution that my report is observational over a few months as opposed to a formal and/or controlled test. So until there are additional reports to confirm or refute my findings, you're taking the risk of being a test pilot, so to speak, and might see different results. If I were using the IL to detect people I'd keep it unless it was a really critical security application where the occasional detection miss was unacceptable. As it is, my main application is to detect animals which it is really poor at, so the S3 is staying. I'm hanging on in the hope of future firmware fixing the animal detection.