Mini-Review - EmpireTech LPR413-Z3

[ARAMP1]

Yep, looks like the newer ones are at 850nm. I'm guessing it picks up the new 3m plates better?

As for your data sheet The one I'm looking at states 10-50mm lens. Are you looking at the international or USA web site?

Dahua ITC

Yeah, all I see now are 10-50mm lens. Maybe it was a misprint and they updated/corrected it?

EDIT: Well, then there's this...

 

[JimEPage]

The screenshot in post #6 is not from the camera in this thread, but they’re both ANPR Automated Number Plate Recognition cameras. The processing is done by the camera. In my case it pushes it to my NVR which is then able to save each event (as well as recording video full time). My NVR is set up for push notifications for DMSS to send a picture of the vehicle and separate picture of the plate if someone comes up my driveway. Again this is the LPR437 so I don’t want to sidetrack this thread too far but just wanted to show what the ANPR cameras are capable of when coupled with a Dahua, in my case Empiretech NVR
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As far a the 433MHz, 868MHz, I saw that and wondered what it was referring to as well.

Which NVR are you using?

 

[Samlol23]

Yeah, all I see now are 10-50mm lens. Maybe it was a misprint and they updated/corrected it?

EDIT: Well, then there's this...

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That looks like an awesome camera. It’s way more expensive than the one discussed in this thread. At B&H it’s $1200 and a special order(logged into my account…the list price everywhere is $1,800). I don’t recall how much I spent on this camera from Andie but I don’t think it was more than $700 (I could be wrong. Really don’t recall).
If you get it, post a review! The 850nm IR will work fine. Believe me the IR lights on my cam are not usable. It would make my house look like the red light district.

 

[33696933]

Does this have a plastic or glass lens? TIA

 

[dimammx]

Just saw one in person and this red IR is way to bright. Is it possible to use external IR illuminator? What i mean, does it need to be pointed from the same angle as camera or can be mounted someplace else?
Did anyone looked in to re-soldering 720 nm led in to the camera itself?

 

[wittaj]

The camera is designed for 740nm and thus 850nm won't be as effective. It may cut the effective distance in half.

Further, due to the reflective property of plates, the infrared light source has to be as close to the camera plane as possible.

Some people have tested external IR for plate reading and once they got more than 2 feet away from the camera and thus not on the same angle/plane of the camera, you couldn't even tell extra infrared was being provided.

 

[dimammx]

Oh yeah sorry I got it backwards, meant to say use 850nm instead of built in 740nm

 

[richardgohth]

Oh yeah sorry I got it backwards, meant to say use 850nm instead of built in 740nm

color cameras are not usually sensitive to NIR light due to the bayers pattern filters.

 

[dimammx]

Will try to play with external illuminator and statically mounted plate tonight.

 

[samplenhold]

@wittaj or anyone that knows...

Where do the plates get logged if you are NOT using an NVR but are using BlueIris?

If it is internal to the cam, can those plates be sent to a computer on the LAN? And if so, how is that done?

I am considering using this to replace my B5442E-Z4E intersection cam, which is set to 27mm. I would not be using the IR or white lights. Just ambient light at this corner.

 

[wittaj]

@wittaj or anyone that knows...

Where do the plates get logged if you are NOT using an NVR but are using BlueIris?

If it is internal to the cam, can those plates be sent to a computer on the LAN? And if so, how is that done?

I am considering using this to replace my B5442E-Z4E intersection cam, which is set to 27mm. I would not be using the IR or white lights. Just ambient light at this corner.

It saves to an SD card.

Unfortunately it is in proprietary format, so no real easy way to pull it. I am sure on github someone has developed something, but I haven't made it that far yet.

I use it as a redundant and probably log in to the camera a couple times a month to double check a questionable plate.

 

[samplenhold]

Bummer. Was hoping that it would be easy. Maybe I will just forget about it.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

Courtesy of @EMPIRETECANDY we have a new camera to review!

This time it is the EmpireTech LPR413-Z3 Automated License Plate Reader camera.

It sports a 4MP 1/1.8"CMOS | Focal Length 8mm to 32mm | License Plate Recognition Distance Distance up to 20 m (65.62 ft) | Capture and Recognize License Plates from Vehicles Traveling up to 120 kph (75 mph) | Starlight+ Technology | Dual Illuminators | Supports Intrusion and Loitering Detection | Built-in Mic and Speaker | Open and Close gate | Active Alarm with Red/Blue Lights and Siren or Voice Prompt

The full specs and purchase are available currently at his website.

First off, this thing is a beast! Here is a picture comparison to our favorite Z12E




Wishlist

Hopefully with a firmware update they can add the ability for it to recognize the "signature" of a plate and be able to read and log seeing just a plate without the outline of a vehicle, similar to how OpenALPR and CodeProject ANPR can.

Please give us a camera on this sensor with a 64mm focal length. I think the shorter focal length alone is what will probably keep most homeowners from getting this camera.

It looks like the anpr has it's own junction box. Did you check to see if the box cover will fir on other junction boxes? For instance, if I have a 12E mounted with a junction box, would switching it out for this be as easy as trading junction box covers?

 

[wittaj]

It looks like the anpr has it's own junction box. Did you check to see if the box cover will fir on other junction boxes? For instance, if I have a 12E mounted with a junction box, would switching it out for this be as easy as trading junction box covers?

The mount for the camera is larger than the "normal" junction boxes.

 

[misfiresam]

Hi @wittaj you don’t think i’d be able to get a clean capture at this distance at night according to your tests? and is there any other anprs that would? also not sure about the said obnoxious red light. I currently run a z12e just wanted something automated.

 

[EMPIRETECANDY]

Hey guys

This camera have some update on bugs and new functions. Can download here
LPR413-Z3

Download Firmwares

Building security systems for home and business offices. Protecting customers' personal safety and property security. All the security cameras and NVRs we sell are of great quality and at affordable prices.

empiretech01.com

 

[m4gnum]

Is zooming feature any different than the Z4E (or ZE)? Is it as slow and "set and forget" or can it be zoomed in/out on demand?
I'm hoping to get 2 presets, one for wider overview and second for zoomed-in view, which I could control via onvif.

 

[wittaj]

It is intended to be a set and forget it type camera.

 

[RJM_50]

Hi @wittaj you don’t think i’d be able to get a clean capture at this distance at night according to your tests? and is there any other anprs that would? also not sure about the said obnoxious red light. I currently run a z12e just wanted something automated.

You need a different mounting location that is perpendicular to the roadway, LPR cannot be successfully done from a building away from the roadway. Sure the optical zoom can get you close views of passing vehicles, but the reflective plates require a perpendicular FOV (Field of View). Some experts suggest no greater than 30° perpendicular to the roadway, while other experts recommend no greater than 15° or 30° combined vertical & horizontal axis perpendicular to the roadway.

Is zooming feature any different than the Z4E (or ZE)? Is it as slow and "set and forget" or can it be zoomed in/out on demand?
I'm hoping to get 2 presets, one for wider overview and second for zoomed-in view, which I could control via onvif.

LPR is a dedicated camera, you need to research the DORI concepts of security cameras. Then install different cameras for the 4 different security layers of advanced notification and protection. You'll need dedicated cameras that are designed for the separate needs of each DORI layer. Unfortunately residential users attempt to use a single camera for all their needs, and it either fails to do anything correctly or only does one coinsedentally, not because of prior planning by the installer. Residential camera marketing has lied and confused the masses so badly they actually believe the SciFi "enhance" meme is real.

Even if you could find a PTZ camera that could instantly change between wide general area FOV and instantly adjust to a LPR tight FOV, along with the drastic changes in WDR and Gain settings required for each task; that camera would be so expensive it would be priced out of the market. A fixed general area camera and the second fixed LPR camera would both be cheaper than the fictional spy camera people assume is available.

 

[misfiresam]

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You need a different mounting location that is perpendicular to the roadway, LPR cannot be successfully done from a building away from the roadway. Sure the optical zoom can get you close views of passing vehicles, but the reflective plates require a perpendicular FOV (Field of View). Some experts suggest no greater than 30° perpendicular to the roadway, while other experts recommend no greater than 15° or 30° combined vertical & horizontal axis perpendicular to the roadway.
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LPR is a dedicated camera, you need to research the DORI concepts of security cameras. Then install different cameras for the 4 different security layers of advanced notification and protection. You'll need dedicated cameras that are designed for the separate needs of each DORI layer. Unfortunately residential users attempt to use a single camera for all their needs, and it either fails to do anything correctly or only does one coinsedentally, not because of prior planning by the installer. Residential camera marketing has lied and confused the masses so badly they actually believe the SciFi "enhance" meme is real.
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Even if you could find a PTZ camera that could instantly change between wide general area FOV and instantly adjust to a LPR tight FOV, along with the drastic changes in WDR and Gain settings required for each task; that camera would be so expensive it would be priced out of the market. A fixed general area camera and the second fixed LPR camera would both be cheaper than the fictional spy camera people assume is available.

Btw not the case, i installed it at that exact angle and it hasn’t missed a plate in 6 months