Dahua WizColor 5x59-PRO and SmartLight 5x59-IL new series

[alekk]

Love the lighting diagram @CCTVCam and the explanation/thought process that went into it ... including putting in the black vinyl to reduce glare.

 

[alekk]

There's a variety of topics being discussed here and it's sometimes hard to keep track of the relevant replies ... so I just posted separately about how "Less sharpness in T54PRO-ZE (versus 5442-S3) possibly due to noise reduction being applied even if set to ZERO?"

I welcome any observations/comments there ... and can summarize back to the main thread as appropriate.

 

[Chokolinho]

I agree but I'd also consider lowering it's position. It looks a bit high (around 8-9 feet?) and mounting it lower will reduce the ceiling reflection as well as giving a better facial shot.

It hangs at a maximum height of 7.5 foot. Would ceiling mounting be the best option?

 

[bigredfish]

It hangs at a maximum height of 7.5 foot. Would ceiling mounting be the best option?

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You have a number of issues. \\

Probably best if you make another thread specific to your problem

 

[Chokolinho]

Video taken on the day of the AS. Default picture settings.

Shutter: 0-3 , Gain: 0-30 ,NR: 30, 30

 

[CCTVCam]

There's a variety of topics being discussed here and it's sometimes hard to keep track of the relevant replies ... so I just posted separately about how "Less sharpness in T54PRO-ZE (versus 5442-S3) possibly due to noise reduction being applied even if set to ZERO?"

I welcome any observations/comments there ... and can summarize back to the main thread as appropriate.

Yeah I apologise. I'm as guilty as anyone for taking it off topic. As you said there are a number of issues going on which refer to the 54pro, but also warrant other discussion. Will try to keep the thread more on topic.

 

[alekk]

Video taken on the day of the AS. Default picture settings.

Shutter: 0-3 , Gain: 0-30 ,NR: 30, 30

Boy ... that's looks pretty sharp ... the only fuzziness I saw was against the wall which is I bet is distance related.
Love to see some nighttime color footage with no LED light.
Also, I forgot if you have the ZE ... but if so, can you give us some idea of what the zoom setting is that matches the AS (2.8 or 3.6mm lens)

 

[CamCrazy]

Video taken on the day of the AS. Default picture settings.

Shutter: 0-3 , Gain: 0-30 ,NR: 30, 30

Have you tried pushing sharpness up out of interest, a theory was thrown out there that these are somewhat soft out the box. Pretty good, but for that shutter speed the person doesn't look as sharp as the van wheel for example? or is that just me. Thank you for posting, keep them coming Also for daylight, maybe drop NR down to 20 or below, small amount of noise doesn't hurt if the detail goes up.

 

[Chokolinho]

Have you tried pushing sharpness up out of interest, a theory was thrown out there that these are somewhat soft out the box. Pretty good, but for that shutter speed the person doesn't look as sharp as the van wheel for example? or is that just me. Thank you for posting, keep them coming Also for daylight, maybe drop NR down to 20 or below, small amount of noise doesn't hurt if the detail goes up.

No, I haven't yet. Another video.

 

[CamCrazy]

No, I haven't yet. Another video.

Thanks, that looks pretty good, maybe tiny drop in sharpness when the bike and rider is moving, not much though, writing on the bike looks reasonably good! I think maybe try dropping NR and possibly even try reducing the gain, there looks to be slight over exposure on the bike bag lid, marginal though. Sorry, not trying to pick holes! great to see some more footage from this camera - appreciated as always. Others who have this already might suggest some tweaks, I will join the club later in the week but not quite yet

Just a case of experimenting with settings at this point I suspect, NR down, try gamma as I think @bigredfish suggested and gain to see how that plays out.

 

[Chokolinho]

Thanks, that looks pretty good, maybe tiny drop in sharpness when the bike and rider is moving, not much though, writing on the bike looks reasonably good! I think maybe try dropping NR and possibly even try reducing the gain, there looks to be slight over exposure on the bike bag lid, marginal though. Sorry, not trying to pick holes! great to see some more footage from this camera - appreciated as always. Others who have this already might suggest some tweaks, I will join the club later in the week but not quite yet

Just a case of experimenting with settings at this point I suspect, NR down, try gamma as I think @bigredfish suggested and gain to see how that plays out.

Thank you for your assessment. I have lowered the values for tomorrow morning slightly.

 

[CamCrazy]

Feel free to post some night clips if you have the time, maybe some with IR and/or LED

 

[alekk]

FYI FWIW that per a suggestion from Andy (to investigate NR being applied even if set to ZERO per this thread), I tried his 0928 Firmware and ALSO the 0827 Firmware directly from Dahua - NR still being applied in all cases ... even with Gain=ZERO and 2D/3D NR=ZERO.

So while it seems prudent to stuck with the firmware from @EMPIRETECANDY , I thought it worthwhile to let folks know that I "took the leap" (LOL I was holding my breath a bit when applying!) and the Dahua firmware does appear to work.

Here is what is reported under Maintenance Center->System Info -> Device Info

0731 Firmware from @EMPIRETECANDY
ONVIF Version 24.12(V3.1.0.2254387)
System Version V3.146.0000000.1.R, Build Date: 2025-07-31
Web Version V5.01.0.2293542
Algorithm Version V5.06.14.0
Security Baseline Version V2.4
H5Player Version V3.01.1

0928 Firmware from @EMPIRETECANDY (recall this "reset" the Gain scale so that 0-100 is about the same as 0-62 on the 0731 Firmware)
ONVIF Version: 24.12(V3.1.0.2288909)
System Version: V3.146.15OG000.0.T, Build Date: 2025-09-28
Web Version: V5.01.0.2309585
Algorithm Version: V5.08.27.0
Security Baseline Version: V2.4
H5Player Version: V3.01.1

0827 Firmware directly from Dahua (will have to check tonight to see where the gain scale is - guessing probably the "full" range like 0731 above - appears to be same as 0731)
ONVIF Version: 24.12(V3.1.0.2288909)
System Version: V3.146.0000000.2.R, Build Date: 2025-08-27
Web Version: V5.01.0.2309585
Algorithm Version: V5.08.27.0
Security Baseline Version: V2.4
H5Player Version: V3.01.1

FYI that in a quick look, I didn't see any difference besides the splash screen looking different and there's a "Product Information QR popup" on the top of the main menu.
It continues to report the device as a IPC-T54PRO-ZE.

 

[CCTVCam]

No, I haven't yet. Another video.

What I also like is despite the high level of detail in the bushes which take up a considerable part of the picture, there's no evidence of compression at play. It all looks like genuine leaves. That's a considerable improvement over the 4kt in that situation.

 

[CCTVCam]

Thanks, that looks pretty good, maybe tiny drop in sharpness when the bike and rider is moving, not much though, writing on the bike looks reasonably good! I think maybe try dropping NR and possibly even try reducing the gain, there looks to be slight over exposure on the bike bag lid, marginal though. Sorry, not trying to pick holes! great to see some more footage from this camera - appreciated as always. Others who have this already might suggest some tweaks, I will join the club later in the week but not quite yet

Just a case of experimenting with settings at this point I suspect, NR down, try gamma as I think @bigredfish suggested and gain to see how that plays out.

I personally like that level of sharpness. It's only a bit in your face because of the tremendous amount of leaf detail in the hedge. When you look in other areas of the picture and at the mail person, it looks very life like so I'm not sure it's an issue. Personal preference maybe. . If anything I'd like to see a bit more brightness in the picture overall, but You're right, the dynamic range is a bit too high on the bike bag. I wonder if dropping the contrast slightly and increasing the brightnes would solve this? It could result in a flatter picture, but on the other hand, it might reduce the over exposure on the bike bag. Sometimes you just need to experiment a little until you find what works. Also, what works in dull conditions is not the same as what works in full sunlight, so some experimentation in differeing conditions is needed to find the best compromise.

 

[steve1225]

No, I haven't yet. Another video.

One thing I found on those WizColor cams...

Day videos are VERY STABLE on textures (trees, greens, asphalt). Even night videos with good lighting - big areas with textures are very stable.

Nothing happens, no pulsing, no re-sharping, no small color / details changing, no nothing...

Looks like another new generation of 3D AI noise reduction, which works somehow with IVS AI (to detect people/vehicles) and compression algorithms.

A few levels up in comparison to disaster what we had in Color4K cams..

ps. from what I understands AI 2D & 3D noise reduction on AI-ISP cams are using AI trained network with different algorithms to different elements of video frame. So different algorithm for grass, different for asphalt and different for human faces..

 

[Chokolinho]

Max zoom is 2426 on ZE. I'll probably have it properly assembled by the weekend. Second picture 100% iris.

Shutter 8,33, Gain : 50 , NR : 50 50 , Iris : 65%

 

[CamCrazy]

Holy smokes, the 54Pro ZE is running as is the S3, the S3 is as expected for the most part, nice step up from the earlier 5442. The 54Pro, initially is like an explosion of settings and options, this is going to be interesting! Working mode I need to dig around some more, Self Adaptive seems so far the only way I forced the colour mode with warm LED's at night! generally I trigger day or night with the DahuaSunriseSunset program, what are the people who know running these 54Pro and similar potential 'colour' cameras in with regards to this?

There seems to be a lot of exposure control taking place when a vehicle comes through the scene in 'self adaptive' when in colour, brightness of the images at night in both IR and Warm LED are pretty impressive I have to say, makes the S3 look pretty average. This is with zero other ambient lighting. Illumination Overexposure Remover when disabled seems to kill colour mode. Anyway, lots to play with and dig into here! my day job is tech but this still looks a bit like

Seems a bit like a beast with some serious potential though, initial thoughts at least. Best I read back through this thread now to see some tips and tricks, the colour image with LED's in zero light even 20 feet high at 4ms shutter is crazy, all be it with gain at 0-80 or 0-100 but wow. I am about 4-5 years behind with this tech now so excuse my shock and amazement in places.

One thing I noticed, when in manual exposure and shutter below maybe 0-20 in colour mode, a grid appears across the image, thin dark lines, perfect grid formation, any ideas on this, sorry if been flagged already. If using shutter priority the grid is gone even when selecting 0-4ms shutter, if I try to set that manually even with gain at 0-100 the grid comes back.

54Pro ZE info below:

System Version
V3.146.0000000.1.R, Build Date: 2025-07-31
Web Version
V5.01.0.2293542
Algorithm Version
V5.06.14.0
Security Baseline Version
V2.4
H5Player Version
V3.01.1

 

[alekk]

Looking forward to hear more from 'ya @CamCrazy
I assume they were delivered with the 0731 firmware(?) ... which I think is what most people are running - this has the "full" gain control.

No idea on the grid - that's weird and I've never seen that ... and in manual mode, I've done exposures from 100msec to 0.01msec.

 

[Tinman]

I upgraded the firmware as I could not enable the Large-Scale AI Models on the 07 fw. I was amazed it caught the squirrel ! Still experimenting with the night profile. This day profile here is just set to auto. Also keep in mind windows snip it does do much for the video quality.


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