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[bigredfish]

On this subject its has to be addressed properly, through letters and emails to senators and congressmen. Without that it does not go anywhere. Protest is an outdated format because it serves no one and can escalate to riots, and solves nothing. Protesting against police/law enforcement/military that are dispatched only makes you an enemy target. The lady who got shot was blocking the road and fallowed them everywhere around. They should had dispatched the local police traffic control issue them a ticket for being a road hazard and if they did not leave they should have been jailed for impeding justice.

I disagree. Protests are protected speech.

January 6th comes to mind... OH only SOME speech

 

[bigredfish]

On this subject its has to be addressed properly, through letters and emails to senators and congressmen. Without that it does not go anywhere. Protest is an outdated format because it serves no one and can escalate to riots, and solves nothing. Protesting against police/law enforcement/military that are dispatched only makes you an enemy target. The lady who got shot was blocking the road and fallowed them everywhere around. They should had dispatched the local police traffic control issue them a ticket for being a road hazard and if they did not leave they should have been jailed for impeding justice.

"An enemy target".......

um ok

 

[Parley]

Doesn't sound like a government concerned about the Constitution to me

I disagree. Protests are protected speech.

January 6th comes to mind... OH only SOME speech

Here we go again. Those protestors in Minnesota are not just standing on a corner protesting waving a sign. They are committing crimes and more. You need to expand your viewing from just the left wing sites.

 

[tech_junkie]

"An enemy target".......

um ok

Seriously.
Eveyone knows the socialist's agenda.

What has not happen is 500 military troops just come in, open fire, and wipe them out like what happened in 1968.
Back then that was another democrat socialist movement.

 

[Parley]

Seriously.
Eveyone knows the socialist's agenda.

What has not happen is 500 military troops just come in, open fire, and wipe them out like what happened in 1968.
Back then that was another democrat socialist movement.

There is a lot going behind the scenes with these protests. I like how Jesse Waters at Fox is covering this.

 

[jpc-s4]

There are multiple places to place blame in this situation, that didn't have to happen. I see it as analogous to a plane crash where there's rarely a single cause, but several contributing factors that all happen to come together at the same time. Maybe if the traitor politicians didn't throw gas on the fire, the ICE people wouldn't be so edgy. Maybe if the ICE people didn't toss people around so violently, the traitor politicians wouldn't be as aggressive. In the Minneapolis situation I think the most tragic part was the "wife" shouting directions to the deceased person. Without her yelling "drive, drive " (approximately), the shooting might not have occurred. Without her having distracted and egged on the ICE people, the shooting might not have occurred. I'm still of the opinion that the officer firing was a wrong decision, maybe if he hadn't been previously dragged by a car he might not have fired.

A few decades ago I was driving near downtown St. Louis on a hot summer evening and made a wrong turn into a neighborhood I didn't belong in, and attracted a lot of attention from the many people out in the street. I seriously began to fear for my life, and if they had begun to surround the car I would have fled out of fear, even if I had to run down somebody to do it. Because of this I can see how the deceased woman might have considered fleeing out of fear, and with the wife yelling at her to do it, it could well have pushed her over the line.

I don't see that ICE is doing anything excessive. Every single clip I've seen shows them taking down people, but they NEVER show what led up to the person being taken down; in almost all cases, I'd bet it's because the person is resisting arrest. Just like the headlines today-- "Another ICE shooting in Mpls." Yes, because the person resisted, drove away, crashed a car, and enlisted two accomplices to beat the officers. Ultimately, they are doing a necessary and legal job, and there are far too many people interfering.

As for her running over the ICE agent because of "fleeing out of fear"... She put herself in that position. She was blocking ICE for over three minutes. She was intentionally breaking the law, interfering with their operations, and they told her she was under arrest and ordered her out of the car. That's a completely different situation than what you describe, where you just drove their due to a wrong turn. But ultimately, none of that even matters with respect to her getting shot, as the officer felt his life was in danger and took legal action against it.

So, again, I ask... How do we negotiate between a side that wants to enforce the law and another side that thinks it can ignore Federal law, or even better, they can impede the Feds from enforcing the law? Where is the middle ground there?

 

[bigredfish]

Here we go again. Those protestors in Minnesota are not just standing on a corner protesting waving a sign. They are committing crimes and more. You need to expand your viewing from just the left wing sites.

Some are some aren't. Just like January 6th

I dont watch TV news and I dont frequent liberal news sites.

You really should go back to school and get a GED

 

[tech_junkie]

There is a lot going behind the scenes with these protests. I like how Jesse Waters at Fox is covering this.

As someone who is a retired counter terrorism analyst, I can tell these "protest" are organized and most police, FBI, CIA, ATF, ICE have been train to counter it as an anti riot engagement trained by the Israeli Massad and ZAKA.


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14 years ago


just to give you an idea this is nothing new.

 

[TonyR]

Doesn't sound like a government concerned about the Constitution to me

Hmmm....it's Déjà vu all over again.

Reminds me of many who were detained because their cell phone showed them to be "in the vicinity" of the Jan. 6 "insurrection".

 

[bigredfish]

 

[bigredfish]

 

[Parley]

Yes, if need be.

 

[Parley]

As someone who is a retired counter terrorism analyst, I can tell these "protest" are organized and most police, FBI, CIA, ATF, ICE have been train to counter it as an anti riot engagement trained by the Israeli Massad and ZAKA.


9 years ago

14 years ago


just to give you an idea this is nothing new.

I agree. A number of these protesters are admitting that they are being paid to protest. One of the problems is that you have people like Bigredfish only posting one side of the story. You do not get the reason why ICE and other agents doing what they are doing. Their primary job is deporting people in this country illegally. These protesters are against that.

 

[bigredfish]

 

[sdkid]

I disagree. Protests are protected speech.

January 6th comes to mind... OH only SOME speech

Totally agree -- Protest is 100% protected speech!!

That does NOT extend to blocking traffic and obstructing law enforcement. The leftists seem to truly believe that they can engage in those behaviors and claim "We're just peacefully protesting!!" Bullshit. They are discovering, the Hard way, that obstruction will NOT be tolerated. So.... will they quit??

 

[Parley]

Again, only half the story. There is no background to any of this that you post. We never see what leads up to this. You never post anything on these protesters breaking the law. They have been breaking the windows on the agents' cars, spray painting them, stealing the guns and other things out of their cars. They are preventing these agents from leaving the parking lots, and on and on.

 

[Parley]

Totally agree -- Protest is 100% protected speech!!

That does NOT extend to blocking traffic and obstructing law enforcement. The leftists seem to truly believe that they can engage in those behaviors and claim "We're just peacefully protesting!!" Bullshit. They are discovering, the Hard way, that obstruction will NOT be tolerated. So.... will they quit??

I agree. This is at least the 2nd or third time Bigredfish has posted that this protest is 100% free speech. I call him out on it when I see him post this.

 

[bigredfish]

I agree. A number of these protesters are admitting that they are being paid to protest. One of the problems is that you have people like Bigredfish only posting one side of the story. You do not get the reason why ICE and other agents doing what they are doing. Their primary job is deporting people in this country illegally. These protesters are against that.

Again your lack of reading comprehension skills is showing.

I said there are paid and bad actors involved.

I also said not ALL of them are, and you don't seem to comprehend that I'm VERY close to Law Enforcement and support them.
I do NOT support the abuse taking place currently by SOME thugs with badges in Minnesota which is stoking the fire. LE is supposed to be better than that.

You dont seem to be capable of holding two views that are in conflict with each other.
That there are BAD COPS and BAD CITIZENS

I just posted a couple of dozen of the first posts I came across to show not that its all LE's fault, but to show people like you that its NOT as being described on your ALL Trump ALL of the time channel.

Some protestors are bad. Yes they are covering for illegals.,But its a minority in this case as in most cases.

3 different polls came out todays showing 57-60% of ALL Americans are against the tactics being used that are flaming the fire, on purpose, just for people like you, so they can declare an "insurrection" and put more military on the streets.

 

[bigredfish]

Again, only half the story. There is no background to any of this that you post. We never see what leads up to this. You never post anything on these protesters breaking the law. They have been breaking the windows on the agents' cars, spray painting them, stealing the guns and other things out of their cars. They are preventing these agents from leaving the parking lots, and on and on.

Well because you seem to be unable to discover news and information yourself, I'll just run up there and film it all for you and provide commentary

 

[bigredfish]

I agree. This is at least the 2nd or third time Bigredfish has posted that this protest is 100% free speech. I call him out on it when I see him post this.

Again your reading comprehension skills are lacking

I've stated 3-4 times that there are legitimate protestors and bad.
If you were able to figure out how to work your mouse and view some of the videos, you'd find many are 100% innocent citizens.

Are they ALL? No.