Lorex NVR to fit EmpireTech PTZ

[Usafexplorer]

Recently ordered a EmpireTech PTZ2M-4X 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 4x Starlight 2.8mm–12mm Vari-focal PTZ Camera. I have used other Dahua branded cameras successfully with a Lorex NVR but was told not all Lorex NVR's play nice. Anyone have any suggestions was Lorex NVR will work with these cameras? I would like to stick with the Lorex App for the time being as I have another property also using a Lorex/Dahua setup. Thanks

EmpireTech PTZ2M-4X 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 4x Starlight 2.8mm–12mm Vari-focal

2MP, 1/2.8" CMOS Powerful 4x optical zoom Max 100°/s pan speed Supports face detection Support PoE IP66, IK10 SMD 3.0 6000V lightning-proof

empiretech01.com

 

[mat200]

Recently ordered a EmpireTech PTZ2M-4X 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 4x Starlight 2.8mm–12mm Vari-focal PTZ Camera. I have used other Dahua branded cameras successfully with a Lorex NVR but was told not all Lorex NVR's play nice. Anyone have any suggestions was Lorex NVR will work with these cameras? I would like to stick with the Lorex App for the time being as I have another property also using a Lorex/Dahua setup. Thanks

EmpireTech PTZ2M-4X 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 4x Starlight 2.8mm–12mm Vari-focal

2MP, 1/2.8" CMOS Powerful 4x optical zoom Max 100°/s pan speed Supports face detection Support PoE IP66, IK10 SMD 3.0 6000V lightning-proof

empiretech01.com

Hi @Usafexplorer

"was told not all Lorex NVR's play nice"

Lorex, not all of their NVRs are Dahua OEM iirc, and even if they are Dahua OEM : Both Dahua and Hikvision have multiple levels of features and differentiations in their NVRs line up. As Lorex OEMs Dahua the most, there will at least be some basic level of compatibility with most Dahua OEM cameras, - the big question typically is on the higher tier / smart / AI features.

So the question, WHY do you want a Lorex NVR instead of getting a Dahua OEM NVR without the Lorex rebranding ? Do you already have a Lorex NVR? or are you planning to buy one ?

 

[Usafexplorer]

Hi @Usafexplorer

"was told not all Lorex NVR's play nice"

Lorex, not all of their NVRs are Dahua OEM iirc, and even if they are Dahua OEM : Both Dahua and Hikvision have multiple levels of features and differentiations in their NVRs line up. As Lorex OEMs Dahua the most, there will at least be some basic level of compatibility with most Dahua OEM cameras, - the big question typically is on the higher tier / smart / AI features.

So the question, WHY do you want a Lorex NVR instead of getting a Dahua OEM NVR without the Lorex rebranding ? Do you already have a Lorex NVR? or are you planning to buy one ?

I already have a Lorex NVR at another property and would prefer to use the Lorex App, if possible. Just comfortable with what I know, not opposed to using an OEM Dahua NVR if that ends up being the solution.

 

[mat200]

I already have a Lorex NVR at another property and would prefer to use the Lorex App, if possible. Just comfortable with what I know, not opposed to using an OEM Dahua NVR if that ends up being the solution.

Perhaps someone with more experience with the Lorex app can chime in, or with the mobile Dahua App.

A few notes,

iirc Lorex App should basically be the Dahua OEM version with Lorex branding .. the current app on your mobile may also work on Dahua OEM NVRs, I would expect there to be some challenges getting it setup if you are currently using Lorex "cloud" services somehow to connect remotely, or locally.

Lorex seems to charge a lot imho for stand alone Lorex NVRs .. during Black Friday season they have some nice sales on some of their kits, unfortunately most of the cameras in their kits now are smaller sensor models.

Lorex NVRs bundled in the kits, did not seem to be the higher level NVRs last I checked. They used to included the higher end NVRs in some kits previously.

Lorex firmware even on the small hardware may not have all the features that the Dahua OEM NVRs have.

 

[jcams]

Recently ordered a EmpireTech PTZ2M-4X 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 4x Starlight 2.8mm–12mm Vari-focal PTZ Camera. I have used other Dahua branded cameras successfully with a Lorex NVR but was told not all Lorex NVR's play nice. Anyone have any suggestions was Lorex NVR will work with these cameras? I would like to stick with the Lorex App for the time being as I have another property also using a Lorex/Dahua setup. Thanks

EmpireTech PTZ2M-4X 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 4x Starlight 2.8mm–12mm Vari-focal

2MP, 1/2.8" CMOS Powerful 4x optical zoom Max 100°/s pan speed Supports face detection Support PoE IP66, IK10 SMD 3.0 6000V lightning-proof

empiretech01.com

How are you liking this camera? Night vision pretty good? Any chance you have any videos of it you would like to share?

 

[Usafexplorer]

How are you liking this camera? Night vision pretty good? Any chance you have any videos of it you would like to share?

Camera works great for daytime viewing, oddly enough it has zero night vision. I thought Starlight meant night vision but apparently not. I believe Starlight improves and supports low light conditions, but is not an actual LED supported night vision, just a guess though. I don't have any videos currently available but I might be able to get one in the near future. Hope this helps.

 

[jcams]

Camera works great for daytime viewing, oddly enough it has zero night vision. I thought Starlight meant night vision but apparently not. I believe Starlight improves and supports low light conditions, but is not an actual LED supported night vision, just a guess though. I don't have any videos currently available but I might be able to get one in the near future. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply! I knew it didnt have IR lighting but i would think it would do ok as long as there is some street lights/ ambient lighting helping it. Are your surroundings completely dark? Does it not see your other cameras IR lighting? Im guessing it doesnt have an IR filter if you say things are completely dark..

 

[Usafexplorer]

Thanks for the reply! I knew it didnt have IR lighting but i would think it would do ok as long as there is some street lights/ ambient lighting helping it. Are your surroundings completely dark? Does it not see your other cameras IR lighting? Im guessing it doesnt have an IR filter if you say things are completely dark..

This particular camera is by itself at the bottom of our driveway, zero ambient lighting in the vicinity. It does work well when vehicle headlights enter the camera view, but it is only a momentary glimpse of lighting.

 

[jcams]

This particular camera is by itself at the bottom of our driveway, zero ambient lighting in the vicinity. It does work well when vehicle headlights enter the camera view, but it is only a momentary glimpse of lighting.

Ahh.. yea if there is no lighting there is not much it can do. Have you ever tried panning towards your other cameras field of views to see if it picks up there IR light? I have a couple 1/2.8 starlights and they do exceptionally well even with there IR turned off, but i have a street light across the street from my house.

 

[Usafexplorer]

Ahh.. yea if there is no lighting there is not much it can do. Have you ever tried panning towards your other cameras field of views to see if it picks up there IR light? I have a couple 1/2.8 starlights and they do exceptionally well even with there IR turned off, but i have a street light across the street from my house.

That is the only camera in the area, no IR light. I have used IR emitters with other cameras lacking night vision and those work well in these situations.

 

[jcams]

That is the only camera in the area, no IR light. I have used IR emitters with other cameras lacking night vision and those work well in these situations.

Have you tried putting an IR emitter near this camera?

 

[Usafexplorer]

Have you tried putting an IR emitter near this camera?

Not yet, I don't have a good source for 110v in proximity of this camera. I might add one in the future but it's a low priority.

 

[jcams]

Not yet, I don't have a good source for 110v in proximity of this camera. I might add one in the future but it's a low priority.

Reason i asked is because i wonder if this camera has an "IR filter" if it does not then an IR emitter wont help anything. I dont see anything in the specs that says it does, so it probably cant see IR light.

 

[Usafexplorer]

Reason i asked is because i wonder if this camera has an "IR filter" if it does not then an IR emitter wont help anything. I dont see anything in the specs that says it does, so it probably cant see IR light.

Every other Dahua or similar camera we have installed have not had an IR filter, we have emitters in our barn and they work well.

 

[jcams]

Every other Dahua or similar camera we have installed have not had an IR filter, we have emitters in our barn and they work well.

If the lens doesnt have an IR filter then the camera cant see IR light. So you could put 10 IR lights around the camera and they would be useless if the camera cant see the light.