Is the regime in Iran soon to be toast?

Likely more realistic

Markets looking for any excuse to cut some of its losses. The Big move UP after the “announcement” that more and more looks to be someone purposely trying to move the markets, won’t hold IMHO

 
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mat200 said:
Spain, Turkey ? .. I recall 2 which I have seen refuse overflights .. if true, that's only some of Nato ..
( oh, I see now I can add Italy not wanting US planes to land .. )

Also I thought Trump wanted out of Nato ?
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Now we see why he wants out.

Apparently our US bases/assets in those counties are exclusively for either protecting them or whatever they feel is their agenda. In other words, those assets are not ours to use even though it's our equipment and soldiers. Welcome to out "allies".
 
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Isolationism .. isn't this originally a part of what some wanted in the USA ??

Dump the alliances
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We want alliances but if they aren't allied then it's just spending our treasure to protect these grifters.
 
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bigredfish said:
Europe/NATO didn’t invade the Middle East.

The US did. And did so with Israel without asking anyone’s opinion

Now Trump is whining because nobody will bail him out if his clusterfuck

I don’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to have my kids die for him either.

If my neighbor goes on a binge and kills someone, I’m not likely to post his bail


1. Start war. Do not tell allies.
2. Blow stuff up.
3. Demand regime change.
4. Blow up more stuff.
5. Demand unconditional surrender.
6. Get angry when enemy fights back.
7. Make threats.
8. Back down. Repeat.
9. Demand allies finish war.
10. Walk away.
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1. Tell the "allies" in advance and expect them not to leak it. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
3. Demands are: no nukes, no proxies, no ballistic missiles. That's all.
5. See #3
7. Threats made and FAFO implemented. You ain't seen nothing yet. It ain't done.
9. It's their backyard given ballistic missiles exist.
10. Smell ya later grifters.


Ask Europe's opinion = :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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Sybertiger said:
Now we see why he wants out.

Apparently our US bases/assets in those counties are exclusively for either protecting them or whatever they feel is their agenda. In other words, those assets are not ours to use even though it's our equipment and soldiers. Welcome to out "allies".
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USA spent a long time building up and investing in an alliance system .. only to have one President claim he does not want it anymore

USA will be in massive trouble if we have no allies.

USA will be unable to project power.

Some NATO members are spending a very significant amount on their military
( Poland, Baltics, Finland .. basically everyone which had been under or attacked by Russia in the past )

France never trusted the USA nuclear backing .. so they got their own Nukes, as well as building their own fighters
 
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Question to Trump... "Do you have any insight as to how the Iranian people are doing? Do they have drinking water? Do they have food?"

Trump... "I do, but first..."

 
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