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Power Restored In Spain, Portugal As Net-Zero Becomes Headache For Brussels
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As someone who learned in high school how large electric power grids are built and as someone who understands the complexity of securing power supplies for large facilities (like data centers) - it drives me crazy when I read such statements by right-wing politicians and commentators who don't understand what they're writing about but use every event in their own way and for their stupid political message.
Yes - Spain and Portugal can generate 80% of the energy they use from green sources (sun, wind, water). Thanks to this we have clean air, water and food here. And we don't get respiratory diseases like in other countries.
This is one of the reasons why I migrated from Poland to Portugal. All my life I had sinus infections 3-5 times a year in Poland, which spread to my bronchi and ended with antibiotic treatment. In Portugal I never got sick.
But both Spain and Portugal have also nuclear reactors as well as gas and coal-fired power plants. And also a lot of hydroelectric power plants, some of which can even work as an energy buffer.
Normally both countries are self-sufficient - but they have connections to the rest of the European power grid. And because of this connection of the grid in Portugal/Spain and in other countries they have to synchronize their work. This means that the frequency and the shift of the sinusoidal current of the electric power must be perfectly matched throughout Europe.
These connections are regularly used to exchange electricity between national power grids - depending on whether there is a deficit or surplus. And they work very well - electricity is available 99.9999% of the time.
Yesterday's incident was the first of its kind in several decades. For technical people - such things sometimes happen. A series of small problems that occurred in different places / countries led to a cascade of problems. Normally one or two problems would be quickly eliminated by the grid connections and many safeguards - here they worked against it.
We don't know the exact reasons yet. We only know a list of minor problems in different places/countries that occurred yesterday. Let's let technical people who know what they're doing do their job - they're the ones who should determine what ultimately happened and how to secure the electrical grid from further incidents like yesterday's.
Technical people who know what they're doing. Not politicians and pseudo-political commentators who don't know shit or can't do shit.
Yes - Spain and Portugal can generate 80% of the energy they use from green sources (sun, wind, water). Thanks to this we have clean air, water and food here. And we don't get respiratory diseases like in other countries.
This is one of the reasons why I migrated from Poland to Portugal. All my life I had sinus infections 3-5 times a year in Poland, which spread to my bronchi and ended with antibiotic treatment. In Portugal I never got sick.
But both Spain and Portugal have also nuclear reactors as well as gas and coal-fired power plants. And also a lot of hydroelectric power plants, some of which can even work as an energy buffer.
Normally both countries are self-sufficient - but they have connections to the rest of the European power grid. And because of this connection of the grid in Portugal/Spain and in other countries they have to synchronize their work. This means that the frequency and the shift of the sinusoidal current of the electric power must be perfectly matched throughout Europe.
These connections are regularly used to exchange electricity between national power grids - depending on whether there is a deficit or surplus. And they work very well - electricity is available 99.9999% of the time.
Yesterday's incident was the first of its kind in several decades. For technical people - such things sometimes happen. A series of small problems that occurred in different places / countries led to a cascade of problems. Normally one or two problems would be quickly eliminated by the grid connections and many safeguards - here they worked against it.
We don't know the exact reasons yet. We only know a list of minor problems in different places/countries that occurred yesterday. Let's let technical people who know what they're doing do their job - they're the ones who should determine what ultimately happened and how to secure the electrical grid from further incidents like yesterday's.
Technical people who know what they're doing. Not politicians and pseudo-political commentators who don't know shit or can't do shit.
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Agreed. Or climate alarmist hoaxers who don't know shit
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Interesting facts on Electricity costs
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Agreed. Or climate alarmist hoaxers who don't know shit
World's Air Pollution: Real-time Air Quality Index
How polluted is the air today? Check out the real-time air pollution map, for more than 80 countries.
As I told in post before - I had 3-5 infections a year treated with antibiotics for all my living in Poland.
They always occurred during periods of cold weather (autumn/winter/early spring), when people burned a lot of stoves (this is how old or poor houses in Poland are heated to this day - not only gas, wood or coal are burned, but often everything - rubbish or even tires).
People are very poorly educated and do not understand the connection between what they themselves generate into the atmosphere and how often they get sick.
I had PM2.5 meters in Poland and unfortunately their increase always coincided with my illness rate. So you can pointlessly repeat right-wing propaganda about no climate change and its lack of impact on people.
But as a person who is quite educated and well-read and has no problem connecting the dots, I claim that these changes are happening. And they are not good for humanity and its health/development.
That by your own words was people burning stuff. Not electrical generation or climate change. Poor comparison
Is the climate getting warmer or cooler? Is it CO2's fault?
Please educate me
Is the climate getting warmer or cooler? Is it CO2's fault?
Please educate me
Also coal-fired power plants. As well as fuel refineries. Unfortunately, there was a lot of it within 50 km of where I lived. Which does not change the fact that I lived in a town outside a large city, where everyone heated in stoves and smoked from communions.
The climate is changing. As a child, I remember that summer was summer and winter was winter. 30-40 cm of snow in winter was normal. Today I do not remember when I saw such an amount of snow in the last 10 years in the place where I lived all my life.
The problem of climate change is a very complex problem. You have natural factors (solar radiation, volcanoes) and those caused by humans (emission of many greenhouse gases - not only CO2 - but also CH4, N2O, fluorinated gases or even H2O, mass deforestation, mass cultivation of crops, industry and production, various types of transport, heating of buildings, etc.).
Reducing the discussion to a single cause and boxing out arguments or data taken out of context - as right-wing politicians/commentators unfortunately do - makes no sense.
Scientists are responsible for deep analysis of this problem, and with their knowledge and scope of analysis - they documented this topic very well.
Experts identified the climate change consensus a long time ago - climate is changing. And we are source of the problem.
Unfortunately, we live in times when, for their own political gain, their opinions and experience of scientists and specialists in this field have begun to be massively undermined.
And this is by people - pseudo politicians/commentators who have no knowledge or experience in this topic. Or who - as they believe - know everything.
Eloquent as usual. My sincere compliments on your mastering of language. Always enjoy your perspective.
The climate has been “changing” for millions of years. Hot/cold with dramatic swings well before man existed.
The facts and data simply don’t back up that it is caused by human activity nor that whatever experienced now is in any way “unusual”, let alone “right wing” narratives.
It has nothing to do with the climate and everything with global “equity”
CO2 has little if anything to do with any perceived climate change. In fact CO2 is an essential element for our planet.
The climate has been “changing” for millions of years. Hot/cold with dramatic swings well before man existed.
The facts and data simply don’t back up that it is caused by human activity nor that whatever experienced now is in any way “unusual”, let alone “right wing” narratives.
It has nothing to do with the climate and everything with global “equity”
CO2 has little if anything to do with any perceived climate change. In fact CO2 is an essential element for our planet.
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At least europe has no BLM people looting/raping around with weapons.
Hell imagine power outage in any US state. Hope you have enough firearms and ammunition
Hell imagine power outage in any US state. Hope you have enough firearms and ammunition
At least europe has no BLM people looting/raping around with weapons.
Hell imagine power outage in any US state. Hope you have enough firearms and ammunition
Plenty thanks. We didn’t give ours up.
We were without power in a large part of Florida, population 23million, a number of times the past 10 years due to hurricanes.
Once for 8 days.
We used gasoline generators and got by fine. Our neighborhood had zero looting. We’re all very well armed and the bad guys know this. They make a lot of noise for TV in downtown areas with few actual citizens, but aren’t stupid enough to come to the neighborhoods.
Many of the BLM were paid agitators. Since cutting off their socialist funding through DOGE, we are seeing far less of that.
About those 3rd world immigrants…
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Anyway. I’m all for clean air. But it seems the Netzero crowd is focused on reducing CO2, which is about %.04 of the atmosphere. Approx 1-3% of that is estimated as being from humans.
Reducing CO2 won’t affect climate change. In fact CO2 is typically shown as a lagging effect from a rise in temp, not the other way around. CO2 is already at dangerously low levels historically.
The huge costs to humans and our way of life to cut insignificant CO2 emissions is simply not based on science. It will destroy food production. At something around 150 ppm, plants quit growing. The UK for example says that 10% of CO2 is from agriculture. Belgium is banning farming on a large scale, the laughable Paris accords want us to quit eating meat and get rid of cows. Ireland and Denmark are culling cattle herds to save less than 1% of the .04% of CO2 created.
There may be some good ways to cut dirty air and emissions, again I’m all for clean air, but the focus and the $$$ are in CO2 reduction to combat climate change, which is a fools errand and not supported by science.
Reducing CO2 won’t affect climate change. In fact CO2 is typically shown as a lagging effect from a rise in temp, not the other way around. CO2 is already at dangerously low levels historically.
The huge costs to humans and our way of life to cut insignificant CO2 emissions is simply not based on science. It will destroy food production. At something around 150 ppm, plants quit growing. The UK for example says that 10% of CO2 is from agriculture. Belgium is banning farming on a large scale, the laughable Paris accords want us to quit eating meat and get rid of cows. Ireland and Denmark are culling cattle herds to save less than 1% of the .04% of CO2 created.
There may be some good ways to cut dirty air and emissions, again I’m all for clean air, but the focus and the $$$ are in CO2 reduction to combat climate change, which is a fools errand and not supported by science.