Canada is swirling the toilet bowl..
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Unfortunately, too close to call. Probably a minority government propped up by only the Bloq and no NDP this time. Right now, Liberals only needed one of the two to pass whatever. So free rein last few years. Now, free rein, so long as Quebec gets hugely preferential treatment.
Typically the winning party has to carry either Ontario or Quebec. Western provinces (4) aren’t much of a factor yet, and the Atlantic provinces (4) aren’t much of a factor either.
The Bloq spoils a lot of Quebec.
Polling is rather unreliable right now. Polly (AI with a good record on US&Canada) called a small CPC lead a few weeks ago. Usually a small lead for them indicates a minority situation.
Trump has definitely not helped anybody to vote Conservative.
Trump doesn’t care whether Canada moves left or right. Never has.
Obama got paid a million or more a tweet to support Trudeau during a few of his elections. Same deal, but Trumps free or being paid more quietly.
Trump just wants to drop the exchange rate to 50%. To say he did that basically.
BlackRock, Brookfield (Carney is big in them, BTW), et Al can buy most things of value.
But he is doing a great case to encourage and increase China’s expansionism into Canada. And if Canada makes serious noise about the digital yuan, it’ll cause problems for the US.
All that reasoning of fight them over there so we won’t have to fight them here is being subverted.
Looks to me like Canada is, as we’ve said many times, a woke, liberal mess, perfectly happy with more socialism
Atlantic polls have closed. Conservative are doing very well at the outset. Over performing in anticipated seat count and popular vote. Popular vote is meaningless in the election results up here, BTW.
At least a +5 seat change for Conservatives. Need 172 for majority.
Next big results, and really almost all the marbles, are when Ontario and Quebec polls close.
At least a +5 seat change for Conservatives. Need 172 for majority.
Next big results, and really almost all the marbles, are when Ontario and Quebec polls close.
Well, China buys their way into places. Has been buying into Canada for a while in oil and minerals especially. Not so obvious infrastructure and such like other areas. A broke Canada with a close relationship with China will take that infrastructure money and be in the hip pocket. USA will be caught flat footed by how fast it can happen, especially with the more inward looking America has always been.
Look how close China was to owning an Australian port. Last minute saving on that happening.
Canada is already seen as a sieve for sensitive info and isn’t trusted inside 5 eyes. Look at the new “spy ring” and Canada’s out in the cold on that one.
That gurgling sound is our northern neighbor flushing what little hope they had ….
Show me someone who believes the Climate hoax and I’ll show you either a moron or a grifter.
Show me someone who believes the Climate hoax and I’ll show you either a moron or a grifter.
They can try to blame their loss on President Trump all they want. Who was Skipper of that sinking ship? THAT is whom to blame.
I see Canada has their priorities in proper order....
Okay, Liberals ended up with a fairly strong minority government.
Close enough to a majority that it’s still either/or NDP and Bloq to pass anything. Then typically 18 months to another election.
Close enough to a majority that if they can convince a few people to cross the floor to them, it’ll become a majority government. Then 4-5 years to another election.
Pollivere didn’t win his own riding/distict. Rare for a party leader, especially for the likely govering or main opposition leader. Apparently the Liberal candidate worked hard, lots of doorknocking. Rumours provincial Conservatives may have helped the Liberal candidate. Redistricting changed the riding demographics a lot as well. The FPTP protest in his riding by putting up 30+ candidates didn’t really do much. Everything was mostly a two way break.
Looks like advance voting might have broken for the Liberals, normally it’s doesn’t for the incumbents. Results from advance polling tipped a lot of close returns to them, boosting their final totals.
A 69%ish voting percentage is a record high even for Canada IIRC. Pundits guessing that about a third of the voting populace went hard against Trudeau, swung to CPC, then swung back to Liberals with Carney.
The Blog lost some dominance as things broke for Liberals more than usual. Not in as strong a negotiation position given how few votes the Liberals need to pass a bill.
CPC got stuck on messaging and didn’t adapt for the likely scenario of no Trudeau. Carney’s honeymoon bump didn’t have time to fall off. Trumps rhetoric did have an effect. Especially in helping brand PP as too Trump imitating. Realizing that Carney was who Trump actually wanted to win, got lost in the mix. Liberal strategist Butts is just phenomenal and the CPC strategist had bad blood with the Ontario Conservatives and just wasn’t that good on top of that.
China’s influence will likely grow considerably, and might become more pronounced and open. Apples going to hard cider to drink locally.
Singh lost his seat, but has his gold plated pension now. NDP mostly collapsed due to anger over the apparent stringing a bad government along for a pension, but largely to ensure Liberals defeat the Conservatives.
Green Party sill held onto one seat in BC.