2025 New Arrivals From EmpireTech
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Chokolinho
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I was really interested in SD5R404GA-HNF PTRZ when wittaj mention about it on post #499 in this thread back in May this year with the price of only $299.99. But I haven't heard anything else from Andy or anyone else about this camera since........
So, I google about it today to see if any other vendor is selling this camera model. But It seems like this camera model is only sold in Europe right now and for 700-800 Euro.
So, I google about it today to see if any other vendor is selling this camera model. But It seems like this camera model is only sold in Europe right now and for 700-800 Euro.
bigredfish
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I was really interested in SD5R404GA-HNF PTRZ when wittaj mention about it on post #499 in this thread back in May this year with the price of only $299.99. But I haven't heard anything else from Andy or anyone else about this camera since........
So, I google about it today to see if any other vendor is selling this camera model. But It seems like this camera model is only sold in Europe right now and for 700-800 Euro.
yeah me too.
I miss the old days when we were able to order practically anything in the Dahua catalog.
Never understood why Andy couldnt get this one...?
SD5R404GA-HNF 4MP Smart Dual Illumination PTRZ Camera
The SD5R404GA-HNF is a 4MP Starlight+ Smart Dual Illumination PTRZ Camera featuring 4x optical zoom, SMD 4.0, two-way audio, and IP67/IK10 protection.
I strongly suspect that it was simply leftover stock and/or a test model that Andy wanted to get rid of.
That explains the price drop from $499 to $299. 
Yes, Dahua products usually cost significantly more here in Europe - especially when sold through an authorized Dahua distributor who doesn't want to risk trouble with Dahua by failing to adhere to their pricing guidelines.
Furthermore, Dahua has long followed a practice of offering different products for different regions of the world. This means that distributors in these various regions cannot source the entire range of Dahua products.
However, it is sometimes possible to find certain Dahua products here in Europe - via Eastern European retailers - at slightly lower prices than on AliExpress or through Andy. While this is rare, it does happen. This is partly because distributors in different global regions can purchase Dahua products from the manufacturer under different terms.
BTW: The fact that Dahua products are no longer permitted for sale in certain countries - such as the USA and, more recently, India - has further disrupted the market and pricing. In my opinion, many Chinese sellers (e.g., on AliExpress) used to sell Dahua products to US customers; since that is no longer possible, far fewer Dahua products are being listed on AliExpress, and by fewer sellers. For instance, the IPC-PTS2449C-4E3Z-S-PV-PRO I bought a few weeks ago wasn't even available on AliExpress at the time, even though the model has been around since 2025.
In my view, Andy is likely struggling with the current situation as well.
bigredfish
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Yes,
The US ban on Dahua /HiK has hurt Andy significantly I beleive
The US ban on Dahua /HiK has hurt Andy significantly I beleive
I’m curious to see how things play out for Dahua. The loss of the US market already had a severe impact on the company, but since the introduction of the STQC certification requirement in India on April 1, 2026, Dahua has been unable to sell products there either. And the Indian market was a major growth area for both Dahua and Hikvision. According to Google:
"Until recently, Dahua - along with Hikvision - controlled around 30% of the total Indian security camera market. In certain segments, particularly among small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) and private consumers, Dahua was at times the market leader, thanks to extremely aggressive pricing. The Indian CCTV market was growing rapidly, recently reaching a total volume of over US$2 billion (or up to US$4.4 billion, depending on whether services were included). India was considered the fastest-growing regional market within the Asia-Pacific region.
The Indian market was also crucial for Dahua because the Indian giant CP Plus (the market leader in India) had sourced its cameras and components primarily as OEM products from Dahua for years. India was, in effect, the market that drove high capacity utilization and massive sales volumes for Dahua’s factories in China."
In Australia, the UK, and Canada, Dahua products are no longer permitted for use in government buildings, agencies, institutions, or critical infrastructure - something that has already been the case in Taiwan for years.
Here in the EU, there is no general ban on Dahua products yet - only isolated restrictions in specific member states (for example, Lithuania). However, if Dahua products were to be banned across the EU as well, the company’s outlook would become increasingly bleak. Aside from China, Africa, and parts of South America, there wouldn't be many sales markets left - though Africa and South America haven't played a major role for Dahua so far, anyway.
"Dahua is currently making an intensive effort to offset its massive revenue losses in India and the USA through aggressive growth in those regions (Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and the majority of Southeast Asia)."
Personally, I also think it’s pretty absurd to slap a sales ban on Dahua products; after all, virtually every electronic component these days contains Chinese technology or parts, and/or the products are manufactured entirely in China anyway. It’s not as if backdoors couldn't be built into those components, or as if this issue only affected IP cameras - or just specific manufacturers like Hikvision and Dahua. Are Chinese manufacturers like Reolink just going to get a pass, then? Oh, and what about Chinese cars - which are currently selling like crazy in the EU, for instance? Are they not considered a security risk regarding backdoors or data transmission to China? 
And yes, the situation regarding the Uyghurs in China’s Xinjiang province - and their mass surveillance using Hikvision and Dahua products - is certainly one of the reasons for the massive international sanctions.
And since we’re posting in a thread about Andy’s offers: I just hope Andy can somehow bypass these sales bans using Dahua OEM products so that his business doesn't suffer too much as a result.
"Until recently, Dahua - along with Hikvision - controlled around 30% of the total Indian security camera market. In certain segments, particularly among small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) and private consumers, Dahua was at times the market leader, thanks to extremely aggressive pricing. The Indian CCTV market was growing rapidly, recently reaching a total volume of over US$2 billion (or up to US$4.4 billion, depending on whether services were included). India was considered the fastest-growing regional market within the Asia-Pacific region.
The Indian market was also crucial for Dahua because the Indian giant CP Plus (the market leader in India) had sourced its cameras and components primarily as OEM products from Dahua for years. India was, in effect, the market that drove high capacity utilization and massive sales volumes for Dahua’s factories in China."
In Australia, the UK, and Canada, Dahua products are no longer permitted for use in government buildings, agencies, institutions, or critical infrastructure - something that has already been the case in Taiwan for years.
Here in the EU, there is no general ban on Dahua products yet - only isolated restrictions in specific member states (for example, Lithuania). However, if Dahua products were to be banned across the EU as well, the company’s outlook would become increasingly bleak. Aside from China, Africa, and parts of South America, there wouldn't be many sales markets left - though Africa and South America haven't played a major role for Dahua so far, anyway.
"Dahua is currently making an intensive effort to offset its massive revenue losses in India and the USA through aggressive growth in those regions (Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and the majority of Southeast Asia)."
Personally, I also think it’s pretty absurd to slap a sales ban on Dahua products; after all, virtually every electronic component these days contains Chinese technology or parts, and/or the products are manufactured entirely in China anyway. It’s not as if backdoors couldn't be built into those components, or as if this issue only affected IP cameras - or just specific manufacturers like Hikvision and Dahua.
Are Chinese manufacturers like Reolink just going to get a pass, then? Oh, and what about Chinese cars - which are currently selling like crazy in the EU, for instance? Are they not considered a security risk regarding backdoors or data transmission to China? And yes, the situation regarding the Uyghurs in China’s Xinjiang province - and their mass surveillance using Hikvision and Dahua products - is certainly one of the reasons for the massive international sanctions.
And since we’re posting in a thread about Andy’s offers: I just hope Andy can somehow bypass these sales bans using Dahua OEM products so that his business doesn't suffer too much as a result.
bigredfish
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As a US resident (?), shouldn't you know better than I do here in Germany? Or where in the world - in what kind of swamp (Location: The Swmap) - do you live? Sorry I don't know that, but I don't follow users' posts here all that closely - even though you've been around for a very long time and have made tens of thousands of posts.
As far as I know, the FCC ban has been in effect since 2022, with enforcement and oversight becoming increasingly strict over time. In some instances, Dahua distributors were even reported to authorities if they continued to stock and sell Dahua products. Ultimately, all of this led to Dahua closing and selling its US subsidiary - with plans to fully withdraw from the US market - by the end of 2025.
Google has this to say about it:
Yes, Dahua products are subject to a comprehensive sales and import ban in the United States, which has effectively ended their regular commercial availability in the country.
The legal actions against the company developed over several stages, leading to a complete market exclusion:
So yes, the general/complete sales ban on Dahua products in the USA is in effect, and has been for quite some time.
Sorry I don't know that, but I don't follow users' posts here all that closely - even though you've been around for a very long time and have made tens of thousands of posts. As far as I know, the FCC ban has been in effect since 2022, with enforcement and oversight becoming increasingly strict over time. In some instances, Dahua distributors were even reported to authorities if they continued to stock and sell Dahua products.
Ultimately, all of this led to Dahua closing and selling its US subsidiary - with plans to fully withdraw from the US market - by the end of 2025.Google has this to say about it:
Yes, Dahua products are subject to a comprehensive sales and import ban in the United States, which has effectively ended their regular commercial availability in the country.
The legal actions against the company developed over several stages, leading to a complete market exclusion:
- The FCC Ban (2022): In late 2022, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued a ban on the import and authorization of new equipment from Dahua and other Chinese manufacturers (such as Huawei, ZTE, and Hikvision). As a result, no new product models could receive market approval in the US.
- Escalated Import Enforcement: U.S. authorities continuously tightened enforcement, stopping shipments and blocking remaining imports under national security mandates.
- Complete Market Exit: Due to these severe restrictions and the inability to clear new products for sale, Dahua Technology USA officially ceased all sales operations in the United States as of December 31, 2025. Since January 1, 2026, the company no longer sells its products on the U.S. market.
So yes, the general/complete sales ban on Dahua products in the USA is in effect, and has been for quite some time.
bigredfish
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As a US resident (?), shouldn't you know better than I do here in Germany? Or where in the world - in what kind of swamp (Location: The Swmap) - do you live?
As far as I know, the FCC ban has been in effect since 2022, with enforcement and oversight becoming increasingly strict over time. In some instances, Dahua distributors were even reported to authorities if they continued to stock and sell Dahua products.
Google has this to say about it:
Yes, Dahua products are subject to a comprehensive sales and import ban in the United States, which has effectively ended their regular commercial availability in the country.
The legal actions against the company developed over several stages, leading to a complete market exclusion:
Years prior to the full commercial ban, Dahua products were already strictly prohibited from being installed in U.S. government facilities, federal agencies, or used by federal contractors under the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act). The subsequent FCC rulings and import enforcement expanded this restriction from government contracts to the entire U.S. commercial and consumer market.
- The FCC Ban (2022): In late 2022, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued a ban on the import and authorization of new equipment from Dahua and other Chinese manufacturers (such as Huawei, ZTE, and Hikvision). As a result, no new product models could receive market approval in the US.
- Escalated Import Enforcement: U.S. authorities continuously tightened enforcement, stopping shipments and blocking remaining imports under national security mandates.
- Complete Market Exit: Due to these severe restrictions and the inability to clear new products for sale, Dahua Technology USA officially ceased all sales operations in the United States as of December 31, 2025. Since January 1, 2026, the company no longer sells its products on the U.S. market.
So yes, the general/complete sales ban on Dahua products in the USA is in effect, and has been for quite some time.
I asked hoping someone close to Dahua may know for certain. We have authorized contractors as members
The FCC ruling was in debate as to components and OEM in the Spring, I seem to recall the drop dead date was this Fall. While Dahua USA shutdown and stopped selling, there was discussion about whether cameras could still be imported.
Obviously yes, regardless of the letter of the FCC ruling all sales have stopped.