Temporary POE connection.

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I’ll try and verbalize this as best I can. I have a PFA 121 mounting box. On one side it has a G3/4 “pipe” plug. I bought a POE extender that is small enough to fit into the box. I want one port of the extender to go to the permanently installed camera. The second port will go to an RJ45 female jack mounted in the 3/4 plug. This jack will be used for a temporary connection when I want to test a camera. Rather than run a separate cable, I can just use a patch cable from this jack. My question is if anyone can recommend a jack to fit into this plug. Since I bought the cheapest on Amazon I might need a replacement. If anyone has a recommendation for a small extender I could use that also.
 
Google says G3/4 pipe outside diameter is 26.44mm, the specs on amazon for this weatherproof female RJ-45 coupler say it's 22.50mm with a 28.80mm outside collar so it should fit if you have enough room inside the box for it. They're not cheap and you get 2 even if you want only 1. You'd need a short patch cable, of course, from it to your POE extender.

BTW, which POE extender do you have now?

PENGLIN 2PCS Industrial IP67 Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Coupler, CAT6A Ethernet Panel Mount Bulkhead Adapter,Support Cat6 Cat5e Cat5 for PC


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I like this one better because you can buy only 1 AND it appears to have a much shorter inside section, leaving more room inside the box but I can't find the dimensions, not sure if it'll fit a G3/4 hole. I also think the outside cap design is better at keeping out moisture than the first one (above) that I posted.

I think it comes directly from China so it'd be a while (December) before it would arrive. Kind of a $10 gamble BUT Walmart Online also says "free holiday returns until Jan. 31st" so.....

Necvior Rugged RJ45 Ethernet Cable Adapter with IP68 Waterproof Protections Connectors for Outdoor Networking Solution


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I bought this one.
I bought a PFA6330X to mount a second camera in the same location without running a second cable. I was just wondering if anyone had experience doing something similar.
Last night, for the life of me, I couldn’t figure out how copy a link from the Amazon app on my tablet.
 
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I like this one better because you can buy only 1 AND it appears to have a much shorter inside section, leaving more room inside the box but I can't find the dimensions, not sure if it'll fit a G3/4 hole. I also think the outside cap design is better at keeping out moisture than the first one (above) that I posted.

I think it comes directly from China so it'd be a while (December) before it would arrive. Kind of a $10 gamble BUT Walmart Online also says "free holiday returns until Jan. 31st" so.....

Necvior Rugged RJ45 Ethernet Cable Adapter with IP68 Waterproof Protections Connectors for Outdoor Networking Solution


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How are you sealing the mains power input to the PoE injector?

Is the box purely an indoor item that is a convenience for holding the injector and a permanent cable receptacle vs having them floating free?

In any event, there are connectors like you need with built in cables for the inside the box wiring, which is better because it removes a point of failure.

This is what I have used for a similar application: These have waterproof connectors on the exterior side which you might not need but similar ones are available with the cap connector like has been linked here before.

These are probably not G threaded but you can get adapters (safest), look for G threaded equivalents, or if the box is metal you can probably get it to make a good enough seal by cross threading the plastic and relying on the fact you’ll never need to reuse these connectors elsewhere.
 
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I never did get a G3/4 connector but did get something recommended by @TonyR My thoughts are just to use this temporarily to test a new camera. I did see this and it seemed too unwieldy.
 
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So finally, here is what the box internal would look like. Those are 1 ft. cat 5e cables. I had a terrible time making shorter ones so gave up. With all the cables, it is a tight fit in the box.
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Here is the final mount.

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My intent was to be able to easily add a different camera to the location without running new cable and compare the two side by side (kind of).

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One of the cameras is a Color4K 2.6 and the second one is a 3.6

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The location where I will probably set something like this up will be mounted on a regular electrical box so should have a lot more room. I certainly will not set up a lot of locations like this. It was a major pain in the backside!
 
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Ok, so this makes a lot more sense.
Somehow in the original post I missed that it was a 1:2 PoE splitter instead of a simple injector. So I was trying to figure out how two cameras were going to be powered off of a single injector. Sorry about all that.

Does the uplink cable come into the box from the hole in the back?

Are most of your cameras on mounting boxes or are they mounted directly in place?

If they’re box mounted you might want to use a similar coupler/short interior jumper. for the main incoming cable. In that case you can seal the box up at home and then when you install it all you need are the hose clamps and to plug the Ethernet in to the exterior jack. (In this scenario the watertight connector I linked makes more sense because that is the permanent connection. The capped version is strictly temporary.

For direct mounted cameras you should have immediate access to the cable anyway which allows…

Take a look at this outdoor PoE extender:

$20 and a few short cables and you can mount two cameras anywhere you want at the end of one home run. So when you’re done testing in location 1, you can just leave the final camera there and move the extender easily to wherever you want to do the comparison next, with much less hassle.
 
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You can purchase 6" patch cables.
The 54PRO's pigtail is so darn big that I couldn't get the cover on the junction box I use. Part of the problem was a 6" patch cable from the POE splitter to the camera. I reluctantly made my own cable, about 3" long, only 2 pairs, and no outer jacket. That allowed me to slam the cover on the junction box while figuratively holding my nose because of how ugly the mess inside the box is.
 
Take a look at this outdoor PoE extender:
I've been using this POE extender since June of 2023 to power 2 cams:

 
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