60 Hz 1/120 exposure, (to eliminate rolling shutter) NR=1
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B54PRO-Z4E first impression
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Here a short video from the Z4E.
At the moment the firmware has too many problems.
Cant use any manual settings, it will only worse the image.
This is auto mode H265.
H265 because H264 seems to be buggy at the moment.
To me it looks like H265 tends less to having this issue, which cannot be fixed with any faster shutter settings.
At the moment the firmware has too many problems.
Cant use any manual settings, it will only worse the image.
This is auto mode H265.
H265 because H264 seems to be buggy at the moment.
To me it looks like H265 tends less to having this issue, which cannot be fixed with any faster shutter settings.
Chokolinho
Getting comfortable
without be able to set the shutter/gain manual it makes no sense to post any night captures.
you can set anything you want, its just numbers. at the moment they are not the real numbers, caused by faulty software shit.
it looks the same as bigredfish showed, blurry faces
you can set anything you want, its just numbers. at the moment they are not the real numbers, caused by faulty software shit.
it looks the same as bigredfish showed, blurry faces
Chokolinho
Getting comfortable
What I was getting at was that it's going to look bad at night.
Does anyone know if there's some special screw or whatever which can aid me in better positioning the camera - mine is mounted ona PFA121 junction box (which doesn't really matter, as there's no positioning control on it) and I want it to look mostly straight (a bit to the left) but also a bit down. I mounted it so that the movement of the mechanism is sideways, that way I can sway it to the side a bit, however this restricts almost any downard movement. If I had it mounted so that it can be pointed down, then it wouldn't move to the left/right. What is the solution in this case except for offseting the mounting itself which would make it look a bit crooked as it would not be level? I know the picture can be level as camera is rotating, but visually it won't be aestethic when you look at the camera 
I only found 1 screw on top of the camera (not the one holding the visor) that does not seem to do much except for tightening/loosening the mechanism - still can't get it really tight with it, but it also does not allow for 4d movement, just 2d.
I only found 1 screw on top of the camera (not the one holding the visor) that does not seem to do much except for tightening/loosening the mechanism - still can't get it really tight with it, but it also does not allow for 4d movement, just 2d.
To be fair - you should show here how image / video with the same exposure / shutter looks from 5442...
A big problem with WizColor / AI-ISP cameras is that because they can "paint" a beautiful bright color static image at 1/100s to 1/250s at night in low light, we think the same applies to moving objects.
This is not true. In such conditions, the sensor sees more noise than the image. Simply turn off noise reduction completely (NR on/off switch) to see what the camera sensor actually sees.
The AI makes up for a lot here... Much more than in the 5442. In the 5442, the image in such conditions (on full auto mode) would be dark, noisy, have ghosting, and be blurry.
In full manual mode, something could be improved on the 5442 - but at 1/120s in color mode it will be far from ideal.
I tried many times to catch European very visible car plates / car details in color mode using 5442-Z4E / 7442-Z4 on low speed streets. Very low success ratio. In IR mode with my full WDR trick works very well.
The problem is that in those new cameras, some of the settings perform poorly - we have little control over some of the AI NR. Plus there is wrong exposure time / gain auto mechanism..
Let's hope Dahua refines this issue. It looks like they received magic box (AI-ISP) from SOC vendor and they don't have big control over it.
ps. those 5x59-PRO cams starts to show in normal Dahua worldwide distribution.. this should speed up fixing them by Dahua...
Bigger situation picture about new Dahua cameras:
Problem is that Chinese CCTV sensors lacks any development in last 4 years.. There are newer western Sony Starvis 2 CCTV sensors, but nor Dahua nor HIK are using them (due political situation & price difference)..
CCTV sensors are very low cost solutions - so no one invest heavily here.. the same story is in SOC space - HIK / Dahua are using cheap SOC's which are mobile knock-off from 3-5 years ago...
For me the only proper solution is switching to high resolution Quad Bayer image sensors, used heavily in mobiles & sport cameras / drones.. All sensor development is going there, every 1-2 years there is a big progress there...
They allow to do 8K video at day & 4K at night (with higher sensitivity).. which have big use in CCTV space (double vertical/horizontal resolution for a day doubles DORI)..
And should be NEW BIG revolution in CCTV space..
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Yes, I didnt expect the 1/120 in 60hz to be any good, same as in the 5442.
I was just trying every possible combination and showing that due to the override of the AI-ISP you simply don’t have full manual control of the image.
I was just trying every possible combination and showing that due to the override of the AI-ISP you simply don’t have full manual control of the image.
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We will see how it performs without AI ISP.
AI ISP will override the shutter and gain, up to 100, will give us shit moving objects. No one ever need this.
Its so buggy that even at day it will use too much of anything.
AI ISP will override the shutter and gain, up to 100, will give us shit moving objects. No one ever need this.
Its so buggy that even at day it will use too much of anything.