Camera over WAN - Video Settings

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Young grasshopper
Mar 11, 2017
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I have had 1 camera as a test running for about 6 months now. Different ISP's, Spectrum cable 500m/15m on the remote camera and Brightspeed fiber 2g/2g at BI location. The camera is a 4k camera set to max bit rate 8192 Kb/S, the frames would average around 3-5 goal was 15. I blamed it on the 15m upload and wrote it off until I could get fiber installed at that location. Fiber is installed at that location and I am getting the same results, I wasn't expecting that. No matter how low of settings I set the camera to, I am still getting the 3-5 frames, it feels as if BI is having issues with the feed. Are there any settings within BI that would help or I need to change, buffer maybe? I would expect there be no connection speed issue with both being fiber and amazing upload speeds.

Let me know what info you need to see, didn't want to post to much network info.

Thanks
 
Update: I've been sitting here trying alot of things, I never thought that my sub stream frame rate would effect the main stream. I had my sub stream set to 5, and main set to 15 on the camera (Amcrest IP8M-T2599EW). Set the sub to 15 and bam, the main stream jumped up to 15 in BI and now no lag in the video......this is weird.
 
That sounds like a bug in the camera software. I run a lot of cameras over wan links but the traffic is vpn embedded by mikrotik routers and wireguard protocol. The "hotel" server has 23 cameras with dual stream from 7 customers / locations using about 35-45Mbit at night. System is still responsive and doing the job just fine.
 
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Update: I've been sitting here trying alot of things, I never thought that my sub stream frame rate would effect the main stream. I had my sub stream set to 5, and main set to 15 on the camera (Amcrest IP8M-T2599EW). Set the sub to 15 and bam, the main stream jumped up to 15 in BI and now no lag in the video......this is weird.
Yup, for reasons unknown to anyone but the Blue Iris developer, frame timing from the sub stream is used to control frame presentation of the main stream. This is a known quirk of dual-streaming in Blue Iris, and is easily overlooked!

Be aware that one camera with 8192 Kbps bit rate is about 2.7 terabytes per month (lets call it 3 terabytes accounting for the sub stream and audio). You can probably get away with this having fiber internet, but nonetheless if either ISP is tracking per-subscriber bandwidth usage, this may put both locations in the top 1% of bandwidth users, and you might get a nasty letter from an ISP about it depending on their policies.
 
Yup, for reasons unknown to anyone but the Blue Iris developer, frame timing from the sub stream is used to control frame presentation of the main stream. This is a known quirk of dual-streaming in Blue Iris, and is easily overlooked!

Be aware that one camera with 8192 Kbps bit rate is about 2.7 terabytes per month (lets call it 3 terabytes accounting for the sub stream and audio). You can probably get away with this having fiber internet, but nonetheless if either ISP is tracking per-subscriber bandwidth usage, this may put both locations in the top 1% of bandwidth users, and you might get a nasty letter from an ISP about it depending on their policies.

Thanks bp, I did turn the camera back a bit, no real need for that much data.