BI v5.9.9.75 Deleting ALL "stored" Video

[HomeWPoe]

Over the last year (using BI v5.9.8.5) I've been keeping about 26 hours of BI "new" video on a 500gb Windows C SSD drive. After 26 hours it transitions to a 6tb Windows D drive where I limit BI video storage to approx. 4tb (or 16 days of total video for 6 cameras). I've had zero problems with this arrangement for the last year.

When I upgraded from BI v5.9.8.5 to v5.9.9.75 on 15 Sep 2025, all 4tb of video on the 6tb Windows D drive was deleted. The 26 hours of "new" video stored on the 500gb Windows C drive was untouched. Over the last two weeks BI has been reaccumulating video on the 6tb Windows D drive again. It almost reached the 4tb (16 day) limit yesterday.

Earlier today I checked the video on the Windows D drive and there was only 3 days of video (from 28 Sep to 30 Sep; 01 Oct is on the C drive). For most or all of the day, BI has been deleting approx. 80-100gb of video from the 6tb Windows D drive every 5 minutes (see the two sections of the BI status log below). As of this writing the BI "stored" directory on the 6tb Windows D drive is now EMPTY (completely deleted). All I have is 24 hours of "new" video on the 500gb Windows C Drive. I haven't upgraded---still using BI v5.9.9.75.

With all the video on the 6tb Windows D drive now deleted, I'm assuming BI will start storing or accumulating video again like it did on 15 Sep 2025. Probably start saving video until it reaches the 16 day video storage limit again, start deleting in 100gb segments every 5 min, then rinse and repeat.

Nothing's been modified or changed in a year. The only change was upgrading from BI v5.9.8.5 to v5.9.9.75.

I can only assume BI v5.9.9.75 caused this problem. I have 7 versions of BI downloaded (v5.9.9.80 through v5.9.9.86). Should I consider upgrading to one of these versions?

Thanks in advance for any help!

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A small sample of the BI status log this afternoon showing BI deleting 80-100gb data every 5 minutes on the 6tb Windows D drive:

level time object message
1 10/1/2025 17:07:32.735 D:\Blue Iris STORED Files DB clips (4.78TB) > Disk usage (700.2GB), run a repair
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.735 New Move: over quota 26/26 hrs, 331.6/340.0GB, 37.0GB free
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.735 New Move: 1 items 1.50GB
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.737 Alerts Delete: nothing to do [2999/3000 hrs, 24.9/27.0GB, 38.5GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.737 Stored Delete: over quota 49/384 hrs, 4899/4800GB, 4.77TB free
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.737 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250929_160000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.730 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250929_160000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:32.922 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250929_160000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:34.030 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250929_173806.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:37.107 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250929_173815.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:37.100 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250929_173817.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:39.205 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250929_173921.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:39.207 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250929_175938.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.600 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250929_182158.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.777 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250929_191617.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.770 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250929_191637.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.852 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250929_191637.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.854 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250929_191845.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.854 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250929_195932.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.945 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250929_204400.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.995 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250929_205441.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.995 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250929_205501.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.997 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250929_205501.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.997 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250929_205719.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.997 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250929_215921.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.900 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250929_223306.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.900 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250929_223325.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.900 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250929_223328.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:40.900 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250929_223543.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:41.008 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250929_230604.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:41.008 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250929_235915.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:41.008 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250930_000000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:41.028 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250930_000000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:07:41.028 Stored Delete: 28 items 101.2GB
0 10/1/2025 17:07:42.873 Clips MoveFile OK: c:\BlueIris\New\FrontDoor.20250930_150534.bvr
10 10/1/2025 17:08:26.711 local_console [::]: Login
0 10/1/2025 17:08:26.711 App Console: connected 1
1 10/1/2025 17:12:43.204 D:\Blue Iris STORED Files DB clips (4.78TB) > Disk usage (600.5GB), run a repair
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.204 New Move: nothing to do [25/26 hrs, 331.2/340.0GB, 37.1GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.206 Alerts Delete: over quota 3000/3000 hrs, 24.9/27.0GB, 37.1GB free
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.212 Clips DeleteFile OK: c:\BlueIris\Alerts\BackYard.20250529_160000.4321447.5-0.jpg
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.212 Alerts Delete: 1 items 1.02MB
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.213 Stored Delete: over quota 41/384 hrs, 4899/4800GB, 4.87TB free
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.238 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250930_000000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.230 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250930_000000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.230 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250930_000000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.231 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250930_000000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.248 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250930_013825.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.256 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250930_013826.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.254 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250930_013826.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.292 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250930_013827.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.200 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250930_015957.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.305 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250930_022227.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.306 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250930_031712.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.306 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250930_031712.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.308 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250930_031712.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.315 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250930_031717.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.316 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250930_040017.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.317 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250930_044434.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.318 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250930_045535.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.318 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250930_045536.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.335 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250930_045537.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.353 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250930_045543.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.354 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\SouthYard.20250930_060014.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.355 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\WorkShop.20250930_063358.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:43.366 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\BackYard.20250930_063400.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:44.607 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontYard.20250930_063401.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:44.664 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250930_063407.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:45.160 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\FrontDoor.20250930_070638.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:45.396 Clips DeleteFile OK: D:\Blue Iris STORED Files\DriveWay.20250930_080000.bvr
0 10/1/2025 17:12:45.396 Stored Delete: 27 items 101.1GB
0 10/1/2025 17:16:27.355 App Console: disconnected
10 10/1/2025 17:16:29.156 local_console [::]: Logout, 8:03

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BI status log with 6tb Windows D drive BI "stored" directory EMPTY:

10 10/1/2025 17:20:02.575 local_console [::]: Login
0 10/1/2025 17:20:02.575 App Console: connected 1
0 10/1/2025 17:20:15.641 App Console: disconnected
10 10/1/2025 17:20:17.462 local_console [::]: Logout, 0:15
1 10/1/2025 17:23:16.340 D:\Blue Iris STORED Files DB clips (4.78TB) > Disk usage (398.2GB), run a repair
0 10/1/2025 17:23:16.340 New Move: nothing to do [25/26 hrs, 333.5/340.0GB, 34.4GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:23:16.342 Alerts Delete: nothing to do [2999/3000 hrs, 24.9/27.0GB, 34.4GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:23:16.342 Stored Delete: nothing to do [0/384 hrs, 4899/4800GB, 5.06TB free]
1 10/1/2025 17:28:16.730 D:\Blue Iris STORED Files DB clips (4.78TB) > Disk usage (398.2GB), run a repair
0 10/1/2025 17:28:16.730 New Move: nothing to do [25/26 hrs, 334.6/340.0GB, 33.1GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:28:16.732 Alerts Delete: over quota 3000/3000 hrs, 24.9/27.0GB, 33.1GB free
0 10/1/2025 17:28:16.732 Clips DeleteFile OK: c:\BlueIris\Alerts\WorkShop.20250529_160001.5082528.5-0.jpg
0 10/1/2025 17:28:16.732 Alerts Delete: 1 items 1.00MB
1 10/1/2025 17:33:17.106 D:\Blue Iris STORED Files DB clips (4.78TB) > Disk usage (398.2GB), run a repair
0 10/1/2025 17:33:17.106 New Move: nothing to do [25/26 hrs, 335.7/340.0GB, 32.0GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:33:17.108 Alerts Delete: nothing to do [2999/3000 hrs, 24.9/27.0GB, 32.0GB free]
1 10/1/2025 17:38:17.475 D:\Blue Iris STORED Files DB clips (4.78TB) > Disk usage (398.2GB), run a repair
0 10/1/2025 17:38:17.475 New Move: nothing to do [25/26 hrs, 336.8/340.0GB, 30.9GB free]
0 10/1/2025 17:38:17.477 Alerts Delete: nothing to do [2999/3000 hrs, 24.9/27.0GB, 30.9GB free]
10 10/1/2025 17:41:10.498 local_console [::]: Login
0 10/1/2025 17:41:10.498 App Console: connected 1

 

[Tinman]

I can't help you on your current issue, but I can suggest you re-think your storage configuration. I would forget recording to your C: drive SSD and just configure your 6TB drive for your clips. Forget the moving crap and you will have no more issues. Just a suggestion, if you don't like it, no problem.

 

[wittaj]

^+1

The DB is fragile. Moving files around within the same box is just wasting CPU, energy, and burning the drives out faster, along with introducing problems in the DB.

 

[HomeWPoe]

@Tinman, @wittaj, thanks for the suggestion. I assume I would create a 4000-5000 GB "new" folder on the 6tb D drive, set Limit the Clip Age to 16 days and specify "delete" (vs. Move to Folder)? Not sure it's necessary, but should I also set the "stored" folder to 0 GB, not click Limit the Clip Age and specify "delete"?

As for my original problem, I believe it may have been caused by an improperly installed update. The Windows Add/Remove program list still showed the previous BI v5.9.8.5 was still installed. BI said it was running v5.9.9.75. Uninstalled BI (via Windows Add/Remove), then installed v5.9.9.80. Now both the Windows Add/Remove program and BI now show the same BI v5.9.9.80. Fingers crossed this resolves the original problem I experienced immediately after the update.

This is probably a classic case of don't fix it if it ain't broke. Been running v5.9.8.5 since Sep 2024 with only one minor camera issue. With my subscription expiring in Oct 2025, I figured I'd chance an update. Oh well.

 

[Flintstone61]

Historically I have been a slow adopter of versions. but since this machine is so stable, I decided to fuck with it, for no good reason other than to see what happens when DB 6.0 or whatever.....5.9.9.85 gets loaded up.
Sometimes when you jump up a bunch of versions so many little things change. most go unnoticed, but like in your case, Some setting you had/have in your older version, behaves differently or has been defaulted to a different setting.
I have used BI in a commercial Condo situation, in a less than stellar neighborhood, and have my learning curve with storage and crashes, and db corruption early on,
I needed stability because the CCTV was only 3% of the job. It just had to be there when I needed to go back 3- 4 weeks. finally got ahold of a stable box in the HP elitedesk g4-800 SFF, ran twin surveillance drives, and a Samsung 256GB SSD.
@wittaj and @looney2ns and many others, recommended skipping the Stored and just filling the drives with the "new" and letting it self delete at about 85% full. They said dont use " age limit". now this was when version 5 was still new. So things have changed in 4 years. I'm sure they built "age limit"in there to actually serve a useful function instead of ruining a database, But i want as many days as i can get stored.
It was only because my upgraded DVR at the Condo had 2 months of reviewable data, that we were able to detect a pattern of mail theft following the G Floyd riots when some Banditos busted in a USPS location and got the Keys to the Kingdom, with St. Paul mailboxes.

 

[HomeWPoe]

It appears BI v5.9.9.75 is the very first release that uses the new v6 DB. That's a big change and probably explains most of my problems. If you don't want to deal with any of the v6 DB growing pains, I've been told v5.9.9.73 is the most stable release that still uses the v5 DB. Not sure whether you can rollback from a v6 to v5 DB though.

 

[Tinman]

It appears BI v5.9.9.75 is the very first release that uses the new v6 DB. That's a big change and probably explains most of my problems. If you don't want to deal with any of the v6 DB growing pains, I've been told v5.9.9.73 is the most stable release that still uses the v5 DB. Not sure whether you can rollback from a v6 to v5 DB though.

I have had zero issues with the new DB, I record both continuous and motion only across 18 cameras to 3 4TB spinners. All nicely sitting in just 2 files

 

[HomeWPoe]

I have had zero issues with the new DB, I record both continuous and motion only across 18 cameras to 3 4TB spinners. All nicely sitting in just 2 files

Which version(s) have you been using?

Ken acknowledged he's had to implement "many fixes" to the v6 DB since its initial release via v5.9.9.75. He suggested I upgrade to .87, which I did. Fingers crossed

 

[bp2008]

I'm sure they built "age limit"in there to actually serve a useful function instead of ruining a database

It is a silly function, to be sure. But the average person doesn't really understand gigabytes and bit rates at the same level as they understand "7 days" or "30 days". So I figure having the option for an age limit makes people feel more confident in their decisions, and less likely to complain that they don't understand how the storage system works.

Also it is a certainty that policies and regulations have been written in various industries forbidding the storage of surveillance data beyond a set number of days.

There is a real benefit to turning off the age limit though. Computers aren't perfect, and there are conditions (thankfully, rare conditions) that make the system clock jump ahead or back and this will, understandably, really mess with any age-triggered deletion schemes. As a personal example I had to deal with this year at work, one of our virtual machine servers had a bug where live migrating virtual machines caused an immense amount of disk usage on that server, to the point that no VM running on that server could access its disk anymore. Bad shit happened. VMs were freezing. Error logs were being sent out about I/O failures, timestamped in the year 2027. So either this bug accidentally created a time machine, or, all the VMs running on that server lost track of time.

 

[bp2008]

Ken acknowledged he's had to implement "many fixes" to the v6 DB since its initial release via v5.9.9.75. He suggested I upgrade to .87, which I did. Fingers crossed

Yeah, Blue Iris doesn't have exhaustive testing before releases, so bugs (and fixes) are frequent. Whether you were aware of it or not, staying on .75 was just asking for clip management bugs

As a rule, I install every update that Blue Iris releases so I can get early awareness of changes that affect UI3 (I develop UI3), and I haven't noticed any database bugs. But I was also only on release .75 for one day before moving to .77, then .78, then .79, and .80 on each of the following days.