What the Flock is going on here!

I've all of a sudden been seeing headlines like this one. It's looking like a huge "love those cameras" propaganda campaign.

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Nothing more than paid advertisements. Seen the same here on WESH news and other news organizations
 
 
Got toll bill from Florida for our Taurus several years back, about a decade ago. The ALPR got one letter wrong on the read but it was the same make and color as our Taurus. They did dismiss the charge after we called them and told them we have not been in Florida in many years...I know about a handful, well about 4 people I have met that had went through the same issue.

In the video above of the guy was arrested because the officer did not do his job properly, found that the footage captured at Lowe's was 20 minutes later than the pursuit of the other Audi.

Which brings up a point, how many footages are improperly misdated/time stamped? Getting several cameras synced to one time source can be challenging depending on the system. I sync all of my cameras to a Time Server on my router since none of cameras have Internet access.
 
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found that the footage captured at Lowe's was 20 minutes later than the pursuit of the other Audi.

Which brings up a point, how many footages are improperly misdated/time stamped?
In that specific case, it was not that the time stamp was incorrect. It was that the cop did not bother to check the time stamp at all.
 
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Flock cameras .. spying on and taking US motorists down one at a time ..

Jury Sides with Motorist over Pretextual Stop by Texas Police
Steve Lehto



This video, presented by attorney Steve Lehto, discusses a significant legal victory for the Fourth Amendment regarding a motorist in Bexar County, Texas. A jury found the county liable for an unconstitutional traffic stop scheme involving pretextual stops and warrantless searches driven by mass surveillance (0:18-0:28).

Key takeaways from the case:

  • The Stop: The client was pulled over by a sheriff's deputy under the guise of "drifting between lanes," a claim disproven by the driver's own dash cam (0:36-0:51).
  • The Search: Despite the lack of a traffic violation, the driver was aggressively interrogated, and his truck was searched by a drug-sniffing dog, resulting in thousands of dollars in property damage (0:51-1:12).
  • The Surveillance: Evidence revealed that the government had been tracking the driver's movements using a web of technologies, including Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs) and sharing his location via WhatsApp (1:26-1:49).
Steve Lehto emphasizes the role of the Institute for Justice (IJ) in fighting these practices. He explains how the IJ uses litigation and advocacy to challenge unchecked government surveillance, such as their "Plate Privacy Project" (2:05-3:30). He encourages viewers to support the IJ through their website, ij.org, noting that while they cannot take every case, they focus on those that establish vital legal precedents (4:02-8:59).
 
This should be concerning to anyone with more than 3 brain cells

2nd instance by the way


 
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This should be concerning to anyone with more than 3 brain cells

2nd instance by the way



I'm sure someone with skills will track down where the data is going. There are lots of privacy advocates who are "on the job".

In the meantime, no permit, no installation. They should be covering the cameras at the very minimum and tagging them with non-permit compliance notices (tags) giving the owners 30 days to contact the governing body and come into compliance. Ideally, they should be removing them by the county or local governments if the compliance issues are not rectified within the 30 days.
 
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During my 30+ year career as a traffic signal tech I encountered and removed MANY illegal signs posted on traffic signal and street lighting poles, on signal cabinets and blocking the sidewalks of the city and county I worked for.

I see no difference whatsoever between the aforementioned violations and those commited by Flock when they, with no official permit or written permission, install their cameras and poles in the public right-of-way or attach their cameras to existing signal, street lighting and wooden utility poles.

If you or I did what Flock has been doing, we'd be fined or worse. :headbang:
 
During my 30+ year career as a traffic signal tech I encountered and removed MANY illegal signs posted on traffic signal and street lighting poles, on signal cabinets and blocking the sidewalks of the city and county I worked for.

I see no difference whatsoever between the aforementioned violations and those commited by Flock when they, with no official permit or written permission, install their cameras and poles in the public right-of-way or attach their cameras to existing signal, street lighting and wooden utility poles.

If you or I did what Flock has been doing, we'd be fined or worse. :headbang:
I agree. Flock will just say that it was installed at the incorrect location and/or blame the installer. Either way, it sure sounds like the installer would be responsible as Flock the company sub-contracts the installation to a third party, leaving them liable unless they can prove otherwise.
 
I agree. Flock will just say that it was installed at the incorrect location and/or blame the installer. Either way, it sure sounds like the installer would be responsible as Flock the company sub-contracts the installation to a third party, leaving them liable unless they can prove otherwise.

Are there not City / County code inspectors following up on the contractors?

Honestly, if you hire from gigwork.com a contractor, and tell them to install the camera they would happily do it.

Should be up to the entity actually as the project manager or "general contractor" or in this case payer ( Flock, City, County, Highway Debt ) to ensure compliance, not the individual contractor who is attempting to follow rules for a check.
 
Should be up to the entity actually as the project manager or "general contractor" or in this case payer ( Flock, City, County, Highway Debt ) to ensure compliance, not the individual contractor who is attempting to follow rules for a check.
I agree, but Flock will not take responsibility. They pass that to the third party - general contractor, individual installer, etc. Typically, the installers, much like Amazon's delivery drivers, are required to be an independent contractor. Removes a lot of responsibility and liability from the actual company and/or third party who runs the installation company.
 
Are there not City / County code inspectors following up on the contractors?

Honestly, if you hire from gigwork.com a contractor, and tell them to install the camera they would happily do it.

Should be up to the entity actually as the project manager or "general contractor" or in this case payer ( Flock, City, County, Highway Debt ) to ensure compliance, not the individual contractor who is attempting to follow rules for a check.
An overwhelming number of the Flock installations across this nation are in unincorporated areas where there are NO permit agencies or compliance inspectors.....and Flock knows this. :mad: