World War III

sdkid said:
If Putin was stupid and arrogant enough to attack Ukraine, is that arrogant stupidity still floating around in his skull?

Are there EU leaders who see Russian impotence and perceived weakness in Ukraine and think-- "it's time to strike and end the Red menace"

There seems to be a lot of dangerous thinking going on...
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NATO .. you have to think of it as a committee, and each state has different views on Russia within NATO

How easy do you think it is to convince all the states to agree to start a war with Russia?

Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, United Kingdom, United States, Greece, Türkiye, Germany, Spain, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Finland, Sweden

Heck in the USA we can't get the Democrats and Republicans to agree on much besides taking bribes.


Seriously, anyone thinking NATO is pushing for a war with Russia is not doing Math .. perhaps because Math is racist? Heck I don't know. People should learn math and history more.
 
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wrapter said:
Remember prior to 2014 every MSM was talking about Nazi problem in Ukraine. Below video they are talking about Bandera Nazi in Ukraine. These Banderas are some of commanders that attacked or led the attack on Donetsk in 2014 and the burning alive of Russian speaking Ukraine citizens in Odessa prior to that. If you see Ukraine soldiers in Nazi tattoos and insignias it's them.

Also the Ukrainian negotiator who Zelensky sent to Turkey to meet Russian negotiators in 2022 to end the then 2 month old war (time period when Russian tanks where still seen obeying the traffic lights in Ukraine) the peace terms where agreed. No nato for Ukraine, Russian speaking citizen rights and return to Minsk accords but UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson went to Kiev to torpedo the peace talks. When the negotiating team returned to Ukraine, the lead negotiator was shot dead point blank in front of tv cameras by a Ukraine Nazi commander before he could say anything about the negotiations in front of the tv.

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Russia has it's share of racists / nazis also .. Russian and Ukrainians are cousins, guess we should expect some similarities.

Still the bottom line is that Ukraine gave up their Nukes to Russia, for promises of Russia, UK, and USA to protect the borders of Ukraine.

That was the deal. It really is that simple.

Russia has TONs of space to move Russian's into Russia. There was no need to extend into Ukraine.

What would be next? Russia moving into Finland and Sweden to "protect Russians" there. Guessing there was a good reason for Finland and Sweden to join NATO.
 
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mat200 said:
NATO .. you have to think of it as a committee, and each state has different views on Russia within NATO

How easy do you think it is to convince all the states to agree to start a war with Russia?

Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, United Kingdom, United States, Greece, Türkiye, Germany, Spain, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Finland, Sweden

Heck in the USA we can't get the Democrats and Republicans to agree on much besides taking bribes.


Seriously, anyone thinking NATO is pushing for a war with Russia is not doing Math .. perhaps because Math is racist? Heck I don't know. People should learn math and history more.
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BS, you only need 3-4
Germany, France, Italy, Poland. (UK I know they arent EU )

Everyone else falls in line or really doesnt matter
 
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move to the politics thread
 
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Guilty.

But I won’t be a fucking idiot and go quietly now that HE changed. I didn’t budge.

All I can do is a) not vote
Or b) vote Democrat
 
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He can, but we don’t have a working Congress, and the few people who can invoke the 25th Amendment are all his appointees and are useless grifters who don’t want to go to jail.

So selling out your country is their only choice
 
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China's and Marxists Social Media War vs USA ..

"US Hands off Asia" ( basically a slogan to help remove US alliances which counter China's influence )


China's Got A Secret Weapon. It's In Your Pocket


This video by China Uncensored argues that the Chinese government is conducting global influence and information warfare operations aimed at weakening the United States through social media manipulation.

Key themes discussed include:

Manufactured Anti-American Protests: The video highlights that certain "anti-imperialist" protests, such as those using the viral hashtag #HandsOffAsia, are not organic but were initiated by organizations like the Tricontinental Institute for Social Research (1:58-2:25, 5:01-5:12).
The Singham Network: Host Chris Chappell details how Neville Roy Singham funds a vast, global network of hard-left organizations that propagate pro-CCP narratives and anti-US sentiment (5:17-6:45).
Algorithm Manipulation: The video cites analysis from the tech startup Spring AI, suggesting that platforms like TikTok may be artificially boosting content that aligns with CCP values, which influences younger audiences to view China more favorably (6:54-7:51).
Academic Collaboration: The video asserts that some US universities, specifically Michigan State University, have collaborated with Chinese institutions to study psychological and information warfare techniques that may ultimately benefit Chinese propaganda efforts (9:20-10:40).
 
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mat200 said:
China's and Marxists Social Media War vs USA ..

"US Hands off Asia" ( basically a slogan to help remove US alliances which counter China's influence )


China's Got A Secret Weapon. It's In Your Pocket


This video by China Uncensored argues that the Chinese government is conducting global influence and information warfare operations aimed at weakening the United States through social media manipulation.

Key themes discussed include:

Manufactured Anti-American Protests: The video highlights that certain "anti-imperialist" protests, such as those using the viral hashtag #HandsOffAsia, are not organic but were initiated by organizations like the Tricontinental Institute for Social Research (1:58-2:25, 5:01-5:12).
The Singham Network: Host Chris Chappell details how Neville Roy Singham funds a vast, global network of hard-left organizations that propagate pro-CCP narratives and anti-US sentiment (5:17-6:45).
Algorithm Manipulation: The video cites analysis from the tech startup Spring AI, suggesting that platforms like TikTok may be artificially boosting content that aligns with CCP values, which influences younger audiences to view China more favorably (6:54-7:51).
Academic Collaboration: The video asserts that some US universities, specifically Michigan State University, have collaborated with Chinese institutions to study psychological and information warfare techniques that may ultimately benefit Chinese propaganda efforts (9:20-10:40).
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Most all big nations do this. The “influence” isn’t all that effective.

Has been going on in some form or another since, the Civil War?
Probably much earlier

The US spends more than most other countries combined on same. Only Israel outspends us

TikTok users now owned by Larry Ellison. He’s with The Tribe
 
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Ukraine seeks unconditional ceasefire



 
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I think Russia said they want a peace agreement, with Ukraine acceptance of annexed territory, plus the 2022 demands. They will not accept ceasefire when they have the upper hand.

If the 2014 coup had not taken place, Ukraine would still have Crimea, with Russia renewing it's lease of the naval base.
 
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