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Just ran across this tonight.

 
Canada .. this is what

 
 
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HOA's have the exact same mindset as Federal ATF Bureaucrats..... THEY can make whatever rules they want.




So glad where we live we have no HOA or POA. Get some Liberals on the HOA and this is what happens...STUPIDITY, kinda like the last presidential administration...
 
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In my old hood we solved that.

I became HOA Pres for 7 straight years.

We not only approved of firearms, we held safety classes at the culdesac-de-sac in the 1st Tuesday of every month ;)

HOAs can be good if you participate and keep sight of the main goal of maintaining home values.

We bought for $275 in ‘07 and sold for $501 in ‘22
 
In my old hood we solved that.

I became HOA Pres for 7 straight years.

We not only approved of firearms, we held safety classes at the culdesac-de-sac in the 1st Tuesday of every month ;)

HOAs can be good if you participate and keep sight of the main goal of maintaining home values.

We bought for $275 in ‘07 and sold for $501 in ‘22
I bet you had some interesting conversations about Treyvon Martin....
 
We sold skittles to finance our cameras ;)
 
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Too Cool

 
HOAs are just a taste of tyranny of the Karens

Only if you let them

If you move into an HOA neighborhood and have a copy of the covenants, it’s on you.

Most major covenant changes require at least 2/3 majority homeowners vote.

The HOA IS YOU
If you choose not to participate, that’s on you
 
Only if you let them

If you move into an HOA neighborhood and have a copy of the covenants, it’s on you.

Most major covenant changes require at least 2/3 majority homeowners vote.

The HOA IS YOU
If you choose not to participate, that’s on you

HOA .. depends, there are many absentee landlords who do not live there and depending on the rules a major investor in an HOA neighborhood can dramatically basically be a dictatorship or major voter

also remember there is a reason why the USA is a Republic and not Democracy, as with a democracy you can have tyranny of the majority.

any HOA which can take away your constitutional rights, IS A PROBLEM
 
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HOA .. depends, there are many absentee landlords who do not live there and depending on the rules a major investor in an HOA neighborhood can dramatically basically be a dictatorship or major voter

also remember there is a reason why the USA is a Republic and not Democracy, as with a democracy you can have tyranny of the majority.

any HOA which can take away your constitutional rights, IS A PROBLEM
Our house before last had a crazy HOA, their rule enforcement was very Bias, pick and chose, who they liked or disliked. A couple of incidents come to mine, if you did not have your lawn at a certain height they would send you a letter of warning then send a crew out and charge you $250 for the mow job. Yes it was in the covenant. Anyway, this one single guy had his grass as high as everyone else, it was obvious he was singled out. He told me he got alot of those letters, and sure enough one time he got the letter the same day that they sent out a crew to mow his yard. Rumor was he dated one of the HOA woman, must of ended bad, found this out later.

Another was a painted wooden fence, they painted it a reddish brown color to make it look better, they could of just replaced the 10 pickets, but anyway, it was a next door neighbor that told me about their letter yet one of the HOA members had their fence painted too. Maybe it was because our fences met and mine was not painted? But I did have replacement pickets on mine.

Guess my point is, HOAs are definitely needed in subdivisions, IMO, especially when everyone's house is 10 feet from each other and there are hundreds of houses in the subdivision. I have lived in three different neighborhoods, three different HOAs. They pretty much had the same or similar rules, but enforcements where definitely different depending on who was enforcing.
 
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HOA .. depends, there are many absentee landlords who do not live there and depending on the rules a major investor in an HOA neighborhood can dramatically basically be a dictatorship or major voter

also remember there is a reason why the USA is a Republic and not Democracy, as with a democracy you can have tyranny of the majority.

any HOA which can take away your constitutional rights, IS A PROBLEM

Bad, corrupt, ignorant, self important, vengeful, people can exist in every organization going all the way to our Congress and the White House.

So are there those people in some of the thousands of HOAs? Yes
Are they actually common and represent MOST HOAs? Uh no

Nobody is taking away anyone’s Constitutional rights when the covenants you accepted when you bought the home clearly state you can’t park your ‘63 Ford on concrete blocks in your front yard. Or allow your property to become an eyesore.
Both of which decrease MY property’s value. This is the purpose of an HOA

If you choose to live that way, there is plenty of land available and plenty of neighborhoods with no HOA

The subdivision just south and west of our previous home was built at the same time and by the same builder. They chose to disband their HOA.
Those property’s are valued and sell at roughly 40% less than what ours did. Because of comps, they STILL negatively effected my home’s value.

Your “rights” stop where the covenants you accepted say they stop, and where you damage my homes value.
 
Bad, corrupt, ignorant, self important, vengeful, people can exist in every organization going all the way to our Congress and the White House.

So are there those people in some of the thousands of HOAs? Yes
Are they actually common and represent MOST HOAs? Uh no

Nobody is taking away anyone’s Constitutional rights when the covenants you accepted when you bought the home clearly state you can’t park your ‘63 Ford on concrete blocks in your front yard. Or allow your property to become an eyesore.
Both of which decrease MY property’s value. This is the purpose of an HOA

If you choose to live that way, there is plenty of land available and plenty of neighborhoods with no HOA

The subdivision just south and west of our previous home was built at the same time and by the same builder. They chose to disband their HOA.
Those property’s are valued and sell at roughly 40% less than what ours did. Because of comps, they STILL negatively effected my home’s value.

Your “rights” stop where the covenants you accepted say they stop, and where you damage my homes value.
Speaking of cars on blocks, been hearing many HOAs are not allowing people to work on their cars in their own driveway. I seemed to remember a neighbor coming to me and told me ours was or was going to, while I was changing the brakes on our car. My working on our vehicles is usually maintenance, so done in a day. Our driveway was spotless, that is no oil on it.

Was pissed one time when the garage repair guys parked in our driveway and when they drove off left oil spots...I quickly grabbed the kitty liter which works well...