US Elections (& Politics) :)

bigredfish said:
There’s a powerful psychological phenomenon at play that goes beyond simple political alignment. For many members of the MAGA movement, their loyalty to Donald Trump isn’t just about supporting a politician; it's about belonging to a community and a shared identity. When a person's sense of self-worth becomes deeply intertwined with a group and its leader, they will protect that connection at almost any cost. Facts that contradict the leader or the group's beliefs are not just intellectual disagreements; they are personal attacks that threaten their entire worldview. To accept a different reality would mean admitting that their core beliefs are wrong, which for many is a far more painful prospect than dismissing inconvenient truths.

This dynamic creates a feedback loop where loyalty reinforces itself. When a follower defends the leader against criticism, they are not only protecting the leader but also their own commitment to the cause. Every time they rationalize a controversial statement or dismiss a documented falsehood, they are doubling down on their allegiance. This process, often called "escalation of commitment," makes it progressively harder to pull away. It's much easier to stay in the group and believe the external world is hostile and deceptive than to face the cognitive dissonance of realizing you may have been wrong. The media, political opponents, and even basic institutions are framed as "enemies," which only strengthens the group's internal cohesion and a sense of shared persecution.

Last but most importantly, this loyalty-over-logic approach is less about policy and more about emotion. It's a response to a perceived threat to a way of life, a feeling of being forgotten or left behind. The leader becomes a symbol of strength and defiance, someone who "says what we're all thinking" and fights back against a system that has, in their view, failed them. In this environment, rational debate and fact-checking are seen as the tools of the enemy, designed to undermine their faith. The connection to the leader is personal and visceral, a bond forged in shared grievances and a common enemy. It’s a powerful emotional engine that can drive a movement forward, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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Spot on !

So true imho
 
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bigredfish said:
Necessary fact of life for 90%+ of Americans at some point.

I wonder if anyone has done the math on what the interest cost would be on 50 vs 30?
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I remember my first and only mortgage, back in 1990 we paid 9.5% interest on a 30 year mortgage, by the end of 30 years we would of paid triple the purchase amount of the house. We were able to pay it off in 22 years, which came to about double the price we bought the home for. We took advantage of an early payoff plan the Mortgage company offered where we paid about $50-75 more a month and made 26 (bi-weekly) payments a year instead of monthly.

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David L said:
I remember my first and only mortgage, back in 1990 we paid 9.5% interest on a 30 year mortgage, by the end of 30 years we would of paid triple the purchase amount of the house. We were able to pay it off in 22 years, which came to about double the price we bought the home for. We took advantage of an early payoff plan the Mortgage company offered where we paid about $50-75 more a month and made 26 (bi-weekly) payments a year instead of monthly.

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Wow, those 20 more years is a Killer

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We got lucky. had a 6% interest 30yr and refinanced at year 5 for 3.2% on a 15 year. Then sold with just $75K left on the note and came out good at the top in summer of '22.
Just lucky timing all the way around
 
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With AI (my definition assholes and idiots) and the garbage from the 1 eyed
babysitter or worse everything on the internet is true, Matthew 24:4 explains it all...
 
I did not know this many Jewish people voted for Mamdanai.

 
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