Seeking advice, color4k-T vs T58PRO

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frankheon

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Hi, I’d like your comments/feedback.

I had 3 Color4k-T 2.8mm cameras but my oldest of 2.5 years just went dead so need to replace. I was looking at getting the same again or maybe switch to the newer IPC-HDW5859H-ASE-PV-PRO equivalent but I don't seem to find a T58PRO-AS. I found an IPC-T58PRO-ZE but the specs show contradictory info and would be slightly worse than the IPC-HDW5859H-ASE-PV-PRO so I’m not sure what’s true. I understand sensor size is just part of the image but daytime picture from the T54PRO do seem better. Also the ZE is vari-focal so I guess it’s a F1.2 vs F1.0 maybe?

But if we assume the T58PRO-ZE is identical to the 5859H-ASE-PV-PRO would it be a good switch?
I love my color4k-T but I do find them to have a soft image like many have reported.
My use case is for front door and car lot. No will to use IR anymore and as I want stealth, I never use the LED lamps so don’t really care about any assisted light performance.
 
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frankheon said:
Hi, I’d like your comments/feedback.

I had 3 Color4k-T 2.8mm cameras but my oldest of 2.5 years just went dead so need to replace. I was looking at getting the same again or maybe switch to the newer IPC-HDW5859H-ASE-PV-PRO equivalent but I don't seem to find a T58PRO-AS. I found an IPC-T58PRO-ZE but the specs show contradictory info and would be slightly worse than the IPC-HDW5859H-ASE-PV-PRO so I’m not sure what’s true. I understand sensor size is just part of the image but daytime picture from the T54PRO do seem better. Also the ZE is vari-focal so I guess it’s a F1.2 vs F1.0 maybe?

But if we assume the T58PRO-ZE is identical to the 5859H-ASE-PV-PRO would it be a good switch?
I love my color4k-T but I do find them to have a soft image like many have reported.
My use case is for front door and car lot. No will to use IR anymore and as I want stealth, I never use the LED lamps so don’t really care about any assisted light performance.
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You might want to do some homework on the new 5xxx PRO series before you buy into the "brighter is better" thing

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frankheon said:
Hi, I’d like your comments/feedback.

I had 3 Color4k-T 2.8mm cameras but my oldest of 2.5 years just went dead so need to replace. I was looking at getting the same again or maybe switch to the newer IPC-HDW5859H-ASE-PV-PRO equivalent but I don't seem to find a T58PRO-AS. I found an IPC-T58PRO-ZE but the specs show contradictory info and would be slightly worse than the IPC-HDW5859H-ASE-PV-PRO so I’m not sure what’s true. I understand sensor size is just part of the image but daytime picture from the T54PRO do seem better. Also the ZE is vari-focal so I guess it’s a F1.2 vs F1.0 maybe?

But if we assume the T58PRO-ZE is identical to the 5859H-ASE-PV-PRO would it be a good switch?
I love my color4k-T but I do find them to have a soft image like many have reported.
My use case is for front door and car lot. No will to use IR anymore and as I want stealth, I never use the LED lamps so don’t really care about any assisted light performance.
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Out of interest, I assume you find the image soft at closer focal distances? granted the lens on the 4K might not be the best, but they are pretty damn sharp once past 10-12 feet.
 
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Out of interest, I assume you find the image soft at closer focal distances? granted the lens on the 4K might not be the best, but they are pretty damn sharp once past 10-12 feet.
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yeah, within 10 feet is the most noticable but then I don't really need to see zits on people faces too lol. But then farther away, I feel there is either lots of compression or it's the softness effect that with compression looses lots of detail IMO. still great but was wondering if newer cameras had better image clarity.
 
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yeah, within 10 feet is the most noticable but then I don't really need to see zits on people faces too lol. But then farther away, I feel there is either lots of compression or it's the softness effect that with compression looses lots of detail IMO. still great but was wondering if newer cameras had better image clarity.
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I know what you mean, I see something similar when someone is walking or general movement. As you say, still great but I think the next best option is the 5442 S3 range essentially. I still really like the 4K-T overall, you can try pushing the bitrate high and keeping fps 10-15 if not already on that setting, not sure it really helps but there could be marginal gains from not crippling the on camera processing too much.
 
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