Opinions for Colour Night Vision Camera in areas of good street lighting.

BruceWA

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I am looking for some idea's to find a camera which can display good night vision images and have a wide field of view under street lighting conditions. I don't want it to use further supplementary lighting. And which works well in Blue Iris. I am in the UK.
 
As long as you realize that 'Color night vision" is a marketing term not a technical one, I'd recommend the Dahua 5442 series.
These have been the leading go-to camera for many here for going on 7 years.
The latest version, S3, is quite good in low light scenes.

They can be purchased from our favorite distributor, Empiretech as the 54IR series

Yes they can run in either color or B&W/IR



Caution though, There is a big difference between what most new users think of as "Bright" vs "Good"

See these recent threads



 
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In addition to the above, keep in mind while street lighting is good, if the person is in between the light source and the camera, then the face is in shadow.
 
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In addition to the above, keep in mind while street lighting is good, if the person is in between the light source and the camera, then the face is in shadow.

yep, can't beat physics.

You'll likely want to run lights at night on your home/business facing out as well as the street lights

Example
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Thanks all. I currently am using Reolink RLC-CX410 and despite the bad press I read about reolink cameras's on these forums I have been fairly happy with mine and Blue Iris. And under the street lighting they do give me quite good results. May not be good enough for really detailed identification of people and moving cars, you can see the colour and make of cars. And the one directly opposite the street light will probably have to do. But from responses on here I am seriously considering one of the EmpireTech but there does not seem to be many EmpireTech sellers in the UK. As was being recommended in one of the thread links I am considering an EmpireTech 54IR-Z4E. However I do see that Amazon is selling an EmpireTech 4MP Starlight IR Turret IP Wired Camera IPC-T54IR-ZEB S3. Anyone know what is the difference between these two. Or the other one I have seen on Amazon an EmpireTech 4K 8MP 1/1.2" CMOS Ultra Low Light Full Color AI IP Camera Warm LED Bullet SMD 3.0 IP67, Built-in Microphone and Speaker, POE and PoE, SMD Plus, IPC-Color4K-X 3.6mm. This one says it has a 1 1/2 inch sensor, which I am reading would give better light gathering. And I am assuming all these EmpireTech cameras allow Manual shutter control, which unfortunately Reolink removed from their CX range. Any thoughts.
 
Thanks all. I currently am using Reolink RLC-CX410 and despite the bad press I read about reolink cameras's on these forums I have been fairly happy with mine and Blue Iris. And under the street lighting they do give me quite good results. May not be good enough for really detailed identification of people and moving cars, you can see the colour and make of cars. And the one directly opposite the street light will probably have to do. But from responses on here I am seriously considering one of the EmpireTech but there does not seem to be many EmpireTech sellers in the UK. As was being recommended in one of the thread links I am considering an EmpireTech 54IR-Z4E. However I do see that Amazon is selling an EmpireTech 4MP Starlight IR Turret IP Wired Camera IPC-T54IR-ZEB S3. Anyone know what is the difference between these two. Or the other one I have seen on Amazon an EmpireTech 4K 8MP 1/1.2" CMOS Ultra Low Light Full Color AI IP Camera Warm LED Bullet SMD 3.0 IP67, Built-in Microphone and Speaker, POE and PoE, SMD Plus, IPC-Color4K-X 3.6mm. This one says it has a 1 1/2 inch sensor, which I am reading would give better light gathering. And I am assuming all these EmpireTech cameras allow Manual shutter control, which unfortunately Reolink removed from their CX range. Any thoughts.
The Color 4k is full color no IR but white light.
 
The Z4 you first mentioned us a great camera, but pay attention to the lens
That one is 8mm-32mm

Your normal variable focus is 2.8mm-12mm
 
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Thanks all. I currently am using Reolink RLC-CX410 and despite the bad press I read about reolink cameras's on these forums I have been fairly happy with mine and Blue Iris. And under the street lighting they do give me quite good results. May not be good enough for really detailed identification of people and moving cars, you can see the colour and make of cars. And the one directly opposite the street light will probably have to do. But from responses on here I am seriously considering one of the EmpireTech but there does not seem to be many EmpireTech sellers in the UK. As was being recommended in one of the thread links I am considering an EmpireTech 54IR-Z4E. However I do see that Amazon is selling an EmpireTech 4MP Starlight IR Turret IP Wired Camera IPC-T54IR-ZEB S3. Anyone know what is the difference between these two. Or the other one I have seen on Amazon an EmpireTech 4K 8MP 1/1.2" CMOS Ultra Low Light Full Color AI IP Camera Warm LED Bullet SMD 3.0 IP67, Built-in Microphone and Speaker, POE and PoE, SMD Plus, IPC-Color4K-X 3.6mm. This one says it has a 1 1/2 inch sensor, which I am reading would give better light gathering. And I am assuming all these EmpireTech cameras allow Manual shutter control, which unfortunately Reolink removed from their CX range. Any thoughts.
One piece of the camera selection pie that I tell anyone who listens as I know from direct experience...
Do you want a security camera to capture someone who looks like Elvis or Bigfoot, to show to the judge in a court of law? Or do you want a security camera that does it's best to capture facial identification for prosecution?
I went to court. Judge based the conviction from my security camera footage because they captured facial ID. Other people in the neighborhood had the standard run of the mill cameras (reolink, nest, arlo, etc). The judge said sure, he could barely tell there is a HUMAN in the picture but could be anyone. Hence, no conviction if he relied on those images.
 
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One piece of the camera selection pie that I tell anyone who listens as I know from direct experience...
Do you want a security camera to capture someone who looks like Elvis or Bigfoot, to show to the judge in a court of law? Or do you want a security camera that does it's best to capture facial identification for prosecution?
I went to court. Judge based the conviction from my security camera footage because they captured facial ID. Other people in the neighborhood had the standard run of the mill cameras (reolink, nest, arlo, etc). The judge said sure, he could barely tell there is a HUMAN in the picture but could be anyone. Hence, no conviction if he relied on those images.
So what cameras do you use?
 
So what cameras do you use?
For the critical "i want images for court", I use Dahua 5442's (older generation) and T54's (new generation). These cameras have parameters for video, fine-tuned (not default). Various focal lengths from 3.6mm, 6mm, and varifocal, depending on their height, angle, and what spatial x,y,z grid I want to focus on.
For keeping eye on general status, I still have some ancient 5231's (oh look...there is the FedEx truck), usually left at default values.
For my wood working shop, 8MP bullets (I believe 5442 variant...unsure).
Then the 'oh cool toy' cameras like boobie camera and such.
 
For the critical "i want images for court", I use Dahua 5442's (older generation) and T54's (new generation). These cameras have parameters for video, fine-tuned (not default). Various focal lengths from 3.6mm, 6mm, and varifocal, depending on their height, angle, and what spatial x,y,z grid I want to focus on.
For keeping eye on general status, I still have some ancient 5231's (oh look...there is the FedEx truck), usually left at default values.
For my wood working shop, 8MP bullets (I believe 5442 variant...unsure).
Then the 'oh cool toy' cameras like boobie camera and such.
The EmpireTech cameras are rebranded Dahua cameras and half the price! Check out Andy at EmpireTech. I have replaced most of my Amcrest cameras with EmpireTech cameras. At night it made a big difference!