Natural Gas Generators

Are those galvanized fittings for a gas line? Not recommended if they are. Nice gen though.
Galvanized pipe is perfect approved for above ground piping. Underground the preferred choice is PE, or coated black schedule 40 steel pipe with cathodic protection installed. Go check every natural gas meter setup and you will see galvanized piping. (A retired natural gas corrosion specialist/ district engineer/ operations manager).
 
Galvanized pipe is perfect approved for above ground piping. Underground the preferred choice is PE, or coated black schedule 40 steel pipe with cathodic protection installed. Go check every natural gas meter setup and you will see galvanized piping. (A retired natural gas corrosion specialist/ district engineer/ operations manager).
Yup. I also have galvanized pipe outside on my generator. Paint will protect it from rust
 
Yup. I also have galvanized pipe outside on my generator. Paint will protect it from rust
Paint galvanized can prolong the life of the zinc coating, which by the way is a sacrificial metal that protects the underlying steel by generating a negative voltage (cathodic) to prevent corrosion.
 
Yep its galvanized and I wish it wasn't! A pain to paint for sure
 
Very interesting, can I spray that on top of existing paint do you think?
 
Very interesting, can I spray that on top of existing paint do you think?
It works best directly on galvanized steel, then next on bare steel; can be applied over existing paint or coating if it is adhered well and shows no signs of peeling or flaking BUT not the best choice.
Inorganic zinc-rich paint seems more durable than organic in most applications. More here:


 
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I know it has been a year since this thread was active, but...

Tomorrow I have a guy from Grasten coming to give me a quote on getting a whole house standby generator. The prices have gone up considerably. From the Generac website the 'starting at' prices are $7k for the 6kW air cooled and $16k for the water cooled 27kW units. That is more than twice the cost. Not sure it is worth it to go water cooled.

Any comments?

Hey — curious how the Grasten quote ended up looking. Once you had the actual proposal, what part was hardest to judge: the generator size itself, what was included in the installation, or whether the total price was justified?
 
Hey — curious how the Grasten quote ended up looking. Once you had the actual proposal, what part was hardest to judge: the generator size itself, what was included in the installation, or whether the total price was justified?
I am very happy with the work Grasten did. Price was in line with others in my area. I had already decided on the features and size needed. They did their calcs and said the size that I had asked about was good. We discussed the issue of having UPS's and how that can impact the size needed. I ended up seriously decreasing the amount of UPS capacity.

Everything was included in the installation. I did not have to do anything else. They did the digging, mounting, gas and electrical connections. They even swept up the sheetrock dust in the garage.
 
Has anyone gotten one installed? What do you have, and how much did it cost?

In the order of preference I think Kohler is the best, Cummins is second, and Generac is third. However, the Generac units are popular enough I think it may be easier to find parts

Liquid cooled is preferable to air cooled, but almost doubles the cost. Sadly my local Kohler reseller is kind of annoying, so I'm looking at the Cummins units. around $10K for a 22kw air cooled, or $17K for a 22kw Liquid Cooled.

Still trying to decide between liquid or air. I think Liquid would be nice, but is it 7K more valuable than the air cooled? Probably not. They both do the job, and I'm not losing power every week
Air. Less hassle. Is this an all in cost? There is considerable electrical work to be done....
 
Less hassle may be very wrong. We had a 7 day outage in Beryl and my liquid cooled unit burned next to zero oil

My neighbors air cooled unit was almost off the dipstick. And the air will require oil changes more frequently DURING outages. IMO that is more work than changing coolant every 5 or so years (Which is not exactly hard anyway)

Also confirm the valves. Often the air cooled units won't have hydraulic lifters and will need valve adjustments (This may be less true nowadays), where the liquid will not

I'm biased because I have the 27kw liquid cooled, but if you're gonna do it, do it right IMO