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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    I'm real interested to see what others show/think of the 1217FW in non-overview scenes ... comparing it to earlier firmware (same camera) and also against the 5442-S3 which is the reference.
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    In IR, if I want to do a 6msec shutter speed (iris 100), I'm already at gain of 60, which is pushing it ... and that's my last "dial" to adjust. Sure, I can make the gain even higher on the 5442-S3 to match the brightness of the T54PRO-ZE, but I'll pay the price in terms of increased noise. In...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    @bigredfish : Look at the shadows in the poster image of the Youtube video - there are at least two light source - one on the left side casting the faint shadow behind and to his right, and a stronger light on right side casting the darker shadow behind and to his left.
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    OK - I was just confirming that yea verily, that isn't happening with my cameras. Roger that - I've talked about the "Pig-Pen Dust Cloud" ... but I think that might be improved/reduced in the 1217 Firmware - wish I still had the 2nd 54PRO-ZE to directly compare. However, I can compare to a...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    T54PRO-ZE at 1/4000s shutter speed in Color mode ... all you see are the driveway/neighbor lights. Note that I have to set Backlight BLC=1 ... because if Backlight is OFF, there is a shadow boost applied that I've talked about ... but it just adds a smidgen of halo around those lights. Speaking...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Your neighbor's consumer cams produce a great static image at night because they using a super-slow shutter speeds ... have them set the same as the Dahua and compare!
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Here's the same scene comparing the T54PRO-ZE (FW1217) versus the 5442-S3 in COLOR As discussed ad-nauseam above, there is a dark scene ... much more so since not in IR, so the IR illuminator doesn't help out. Our settings here are (OMFG!) 20 msec shutter, 100 iris, 100(!) gain, and 50/50...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Good points @bigredfish in your post a few back ... because yes, capturing motion is the ultimate objective. But if camera #2 can capture a "better" still image (at "similar" settings) than camera #1, it probably is going to do better in video. And even if it's not "acceptable" (we always want...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Yea, shine two flash lights at the same target and they will be additive ... Added: If you are comparing (just) sensor/lens/processing between the two camera's, then ideally you would want an external IR illuminator (located equidistant between 'em) to provide the same light. However, that...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Regardless of the distance, I'm just suggesting if you are comparing, the FOV could be more similar to minimize any differences from that.
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Roger that and good luck with your testing @bigredfish BTW, the Field-of-View of the 5459 is wider than the 5442 - very obvious in the vertical as you did an excellent job lining up the top, but look at the bottom. Not as obvious in the horizontal, but still wider. This would contribute to...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    I got that ... but if you are trying to do a straight-up comparison of the exposure between the two cameras (or different firmware), you have to force-set the same settings. And ideally I would UNDEREXPOSE the image slightly ... so there is no doubt (with THOSE settings) that the camera is...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    FYI that you need to set a VALUE for shutter/gain/iris ... NOT a range ... since the camera can then play with those variables so the overall exposure is similar. I.e. I set gain to ZERO, Iris to full open, and then played with a specific shutter speed until the image is under-exposed. Then do...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    BTW, anyone running the 1217 firmware seeing MUCH larger .dav files on the SD card? I set the time interval to 10 minutes ... and am using H.264H, AI Coding, 10 FPS, VBR, Quality 5, 8192Kb/s ... and comparing daytime footage from today (after applying the 1217 FW) to yesterday (at the same...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    To echo what @tmxv4128 said about the 1217 firmware being brighter, here's the T54PRO-ZE compared against the 5442 with the exact same settings. Shutter speed is forced to 1/4000s, Gain is 0, Iris is full open, and NR is zero and toggled off - i.e. I tried to make a straight shootout of the...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    FYI FWIW that I had no issues applying the 1217FW to my T54PRO-ZE - differences from 11/27FW in BOLD below. It's daytime here ... at a very quick first look in daylight, images appear similar, although may have been some slightly improved tonality changes ... albeit hard to tell since the...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    12/17 firmware ... that is literally hot-off-the-press! ;-) Thanks for the heads-up and initial report @tmxv4128 ... and looking forward to further impressions from 'ya. @EMPIRETECANDY : Please DM me a download link if you are looking for more testers ...
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    Review - EmpireTech IPC-T54PRO-AS 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP WizColor

    @EMPIRETECANDY : any chance of getting some sort of explanation from Dahua on this? Seems like a significant change for just an HLC=1 adjustment.
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    T54PRO-ZE Field-of-View (and change in aperture/exposure) as focal length changes

    Yes @bigredfish it's totally normal ... I was just characterizing what the "curve" looked like using "real" data. Thanks for chiming in @wopi82 as your testing is superb.
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    Review - EmpireTech IPC-T54PRO-AS 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP WizColor

    Thank you @wopi82 for the detailed and informative reply to various comments from folks. Yea, I remember your ISO stuff from the 4K-X review ... I thought maybe they made this easier ... since comparing against "reference" images is a lot of work, especially if you are looking at "adjusted"...
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    Loryta PTZ5A4M-25X Animal Tracking Example

    That's pretty darn good! P.S. I noticed @guykuo you are from Sammamish, WA ... as someone originally from that area (with family still there), how's the GAR (Gogzilla Atmospheric River) treating 'ya? LOL the rain on audio is a hint. Hopefully you aren't too low/close to the flooding rivers.
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    Dahua WizColor 5x59-PRO and SmartLight 5x59-IL new series

    Providing a pointer here in case anyone didn't see it that @wopi82 posted some excellent stuff on the T54PRO-AS here.
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    Review - EmpireTech IPC-T54PRO-AS 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP WizColor

    Yea, "core imaging performance" is the foundation ... I hope Dahua Engineers/Management read what you wrote. And yes, as you point out, unknown how much of this is due to global political situation that hasn't allowed advancement in the base sensor technology.
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    Review - EmpireTech IPC-T54PRO-AS 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP WizColor

    First, GREAT to read your review @wopi82 ... as others have said, I welcome you chiming in more often. WRT the PRO looking WDR'ish/Plasticy: Did you try setting Backlight HLC=1 (yes, just ONE). This can make a surprising difference often times (you'll get "true" black back) - suggests to me...
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    OMG Thermal!

    I'll echo this comment: "Whether this is real or AI it's damn funny!!"
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    The 54PRO seems (generally) "better" than the 5442-S3 for STATIC content ... with it having issues on DYNAMIC content ... so my "Pig-Pen Dust Cloud" is a catch-all expression that would encompass noise/ghosting.
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Yes ... and great examples - I like how you did an excellent job showing it. I was just pointing out that it appears on the 4K ... and seems like a similar phenomena on the 54PRO, but much more pronounced. I would think(?) that the final codec/compression is similar (between the 5442-S3 and...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Nice lights! Would you agree that with 1/166s shutter speed, the "Pig-Pen Dust Cloud" persists longer than that? Just pointing out it "exists" with the Color4K ... but I'm guessing that if you put a 54PRO with similar settings, the "Pig-Pen Dust Cloud" would be "bigger" and "longer lasting" ...
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    B54PRO-Z4E first impression

    Curious what the 3NR setting is on the first color camera where the dude drives his pickup across the grass. It's a good capture ... but you can see the "Pig-Pen Dust Cloud" behind it as it goes from right to left ... but it's fairly short/quick compared to the extreme examples I've posted in...
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    Review- EmpireTech IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3 4mp Varifocal Turret

    I don't want to sound like a Dahua fan-boy, but I'm pretty encouraged by what I see in the 54PRO (versus the 5442-S3) and the improvements in the firmware ... both visible and IR. Yes, we don't know if gain=70 on the 54PRO is the same as gain=70 on the 5442 (and if there is a "extra" AI boost)...
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