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was not certain where to put this one ..
Russell Brand Just Proved Why the Second Amendment Exists
Colion Noir
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Russell Brand Just Proved Why the Second Amendment Exists
Colion Noir
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Brits have a different take on personal responsibility and that of government. I learned this when I was living in Nigeria 2006-11. I belonged to a forum called Oyibos OnLine, which was created and run by a bunch of Brits living in Lagos. Remember that Nigeria was a British colony way back when.
There was quite a ruckus on that forum about Americans and guns, the Brits were quite upset with some guys from the USA on the forum defending their opinion about the 2nd Amendment. After a while the Brits resorted to name calling and had one or two of the Americans removed from the forum. I posted the piece below in response to that happening. This was back in 2009.
This is a very sensitive subject for this group of folks to discuss. There are many Brits here on OOL, and they have a very different view of what is 'personal responsibility' and what is the government’s responsibility, or what is 'proper self-defense'. The English Bill of Rights (1689) was a 'right to arms guarantee' which has been castrated over the years, but was very influential to the framers of the US Bill Of Rights (The 2nd amendment giving every citizen the right to keep and bear arms). So way back when, there was not much difference in opinion. Don’t kid yourselves; Great Britain is generally a more dangerous place than the United States, except for homicides, but that is due to the creative way the Brits ‘count’ homicides (“A single case of homicide is counted for each act of murder or culpable homicide irrespective of the number of perpetrators or victims.” So five killed together is one homicide.)
Technically, self-defense is still legal in Britain, but in practice, any act of self-defense is subject to a prosecutor’s second-guessing of what is “reasonable.” For example, Brett Osborn is serving a 5-year sentence for manslaughter. In order to protect a friend, “He stabbed a blood-covered, drug-crazed intruder…”. His prosecution stemmed from the fact that he failed to warn the criminal that he had access to a knife. The government tells Britons that when they are attacked, they should not fight back, but should instead curl into a ball or take a similar defensive posture and yell “Call the police!”.
Police rarely get to ‘protect’ a citizen. Generally they arrive after the damage is done and they take a report, call the coroner, and keep the media away. A culture that gives up the right to self-defense is expecting way too much from its government or is creating a police state.
People intent on doing someone harm will do the harm with what instruments that are available. Would you prefer that people were stabbed (like Pat Regan, famed Brit anti-gunner, who was murdered by her 20yo grandson)? Or bludgeoned to death with a bat? Ask any ER doc "who would you rather treat, a gunshot victim or a stabbing victim?" They will always state the gunshot victim, much better chance of saving them. I know this for a fact having asked this question of several ER docs.
I do take offence to those that call people they never have met bad names just because they do not agree with them politically. Also, I don’t expect to change anyone’s mind on this subject.
3/19/2009
There was quite a ruckus on that forum about Americans and guns, the Brits were quite upset with some guys from the USA on the forum defending their opinion about the 2nd Amendment. After a while the Brits resorted to name calling and had one or two of the Americans removed from the forum. I posted the piece below in response to that happening. This was back in 2009.
This is a very sensitive subject for this group of folks to discuss. There are many Brits here on OOL, and they have a very different view of what is 'personal responsibility' and what is the government’s responsibility, or what is 'proper self-defense'. The English Bill of Rights (1689) was a 'right to arms guarantee' which has been castrated over the years, but was very influential to the framers of the US Bill Of Rights (The 2nd amendment giving every citizen the right to keep and bear arms). So way back when, there was not much difference in opinion. Don’t kid yourselves; Great Britain is generally a more dangerous place than the United States, except for homicides, but that is due to the creative way the Brits ‘count’ homicides (“A single case of homicide is counted for each act of murder or culpable homicide irrespective of the number of perpetrators or victims.” So five killed together is one homicide.)
Technically, self-defense is still legal in Britain, but in practice, any act of self-defense is subject to a prosecutor’s second-guessing of what is “reasonable.” For example, Brett Osborn is serving a 5-year sentence for manslaughter. In order to protect a friend, “He stabbed a blood-covered, drug-crazed intruder…”. His prosecution stemmed from the fact that he failed to warn the criminal that he had access to a knife. The government tells Britons that when they are attacked, they should not fight back, but should instead curl into a ball or take a similar defensive posture and yell “Call the police!”.
Police rarely get to ‘protect’ a citizen. Generally they arrive after the damage is done and they take a report, call the coroner, and keep the media away. A culture that gives up the right to self-defense is expecting way too much from its government or is creating a police state.
People intent on doing someone harm will do the harm with what instruments that are available. Would you prefer that people were stabbed (like Pat Regan, famed Brit anti-gunner, who was murdered by her 20yo grandson)? Or bludgeoned to death with a bat? Ask any ER doc "who would you rather treat, a gunshot victim or a stabbing victim?" They will always state the gunshot victim, much better chance of saving them. I know this for a fact having asked this question of several ER docs.
I do take offence to those that call people they never have met bad names just because they do not agree with them politically. Also, I don’t expect to change anyone’s mind on this subject.
3/19/2009