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Sybertiger
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Killing him okay? No. But, play stupid games win stupid prizes. Guess he didn't hear about the person before him who played the stupid game.
Just imagine how many people on "his side" are thankful for his sacrifice as they feel it bolsters their agenda. I'm sure the fist pumping will go on by them as they see this as a means to an end to prevent illegals from being deported.
Pro tip: Don't play the stupid game and survive. Protest from the sidewalk at distance; do not get in the way of a lawful action; avoid winning stupid prizes.
Sybertiger
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No where did I ever say there arent violent protestors. - Much like Jan 6th
However in this case the man murdered by Federal LE wasn't one.
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Federal agent dealing with lady in the white/cream jacket.
Then Alex decides he wants to ask the agent for a date.
Agent says he doesn't play for that team.
Moral of the story: Don't touch, grab, get in face of Federal agent while he is actively working on the arrest of someone you don't even know or the circumstances. Please proceed the opposite direction.
Then Alex decides he wants to ask the agent for a date.
Agent says he doesn't play for that team.
Moral of the story: Don't touch, grab, get in face of Federal agent while he is actively working on the arrest of someone you don't even know or the circumstances. Please proceed the opposite direction.
Sybertiger
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I'm sorry general we forgot to invite you to sit in on Davos during our negotiations. How rude of us.
The truth will eventually come out. He was legally licensed to carry. What happened to all the 2nd amendment cheerleaders that were here? He never touched or attempted to touch his gun. He was brandishing his phone!
He was peacefully protesting the government's actions, every American's right.
By HANNAH FINGERHUT
Updated 11:50 AM EST, January 25, 2026
Videos quickly emerged showing the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis protester by a Border Patrol agent that has been widely denounced as a case of excessive force carried out by untrained federal officers. The administration says it was a case of an armed man provoking violence.
The Associated Press reviewed multiple bystander videos that show a Border Patrol agent shooting and killing 37-year-old Alex Pretti after a roughly 30-second scuffle around 9 a.m. Saturday. The videos appear to contradict statements by the Trump administration, which said the shots were fired “defensively” against Pretti as he “approached” them with a gun.
In the videos, Pretti is seen with only a phone in his hand. None of the footage appears to show him with a weapon. During the scuffle, agents discovered that he was carrying a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun, and they opened fire with several shots. Pretti was licensed to carry a concealed weapon.
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, who said he watched one of the videos, said he saw “more than six masked agents pummeling one of our constituents, shooting him to death.” Frey has said Minneapolis and St. Paul are being “invaded” by the administration’s largest immigration crackdown, dubbed Operation Metro Surge.
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Pretti attacked officers, and Customs and Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino said Pretti wanted to do “maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.” In posts on X, President Donald Trump’s deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, called Pretti “a would-be assassin.”
It was the second fatal shooting in Minneapolis by federal immigration authorities this month. The first, on Jan. 7, involved Renee Good. It also was captured on videos and produced a similar schism among political leaders.
The shooting occurred when officers were pursuing a man in the country illegally wanted for domestic assault, Bovino said. Protesters routinely try to disrupt such operations, and they sounded high-pitched whistles, honked horns and yelled at officers.
Among them was Pretti. At one point, in a video obtained by AP, Pretti is standing in the street and holding up his phone. He is face-to-face with an officer in a tactical vest, who places his hand on Pretti and pushes him toward the sidewalk.
Pretti is talking to the officer, though it is not clear what he is saying.
The video shows protesters wandering in and out of the street as officers persist in trying to keep them at bay. One protester is put in handcuffs. Some officers are carrying pepper spray canisters.
Pretti comes in again when the video shows an officer wearing tactical gear shoving a protester. The protester, who is wearing a skirt over black tights and holding a water bottle, reaches out for Pretti.
The same officer shoves Pretti in his chest, leading Pretti and the other protester to stumble backward.
A different video then shows Pretti moving toward another protester, who falls over after being shoved by the same officer. Pretti moves between the protester and the officer, reaching his arms out toward the officer.
The officer deploys pepper spray, and Pretti raises his hand and turns his face. The officer grabs Pretti’s hand to bring it behind his back, deploys the pepper spray canister again and then pushes Pretti away.
Seconds later, at least a half-dozen federal officers surround Pretti, who is wrestled to the ground and hit several times. Several agents try to bring Pretti’s arms behind his back, and he struggles.
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Videos show an officer, who is hovering over the scuffle with his right hand on Pretti’s back, backs away from the group with what appears to be a gun in his right hand just before the first shot.
Someone shouts “gun, gun.” It is not clear if that’s a reference to the weapon authorities say Pretti had.
And then the first shot is heard.
Videos do not clearly show who fired the first shot. In one video, seconds before the first shot, one officer reaches for his belt and appears to draw his gun. That same officer is seen with a gun to Pretti’s back as three more shots ring out. Pretti slumps to the ground. Videos show the officers backing away, some with guns drawn. More shots are fired.
The Department of Homeland Security said Pretti was shot after he “approached” Border Patrol officers with a gun. Officials did not say if Pretti brandished the weapon or kept it hidden.
An agency statement said officers fired “defensive shots” after Pretti “violently resisted” officers tried to disarm him.
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz expressed dismay at the characterization.
“I’ve seen the videos, from several angles, and it’s sickening,” he said.
Trump weighed in on social media by lashing out Walz and Frey. Trump shared images of the gun that immigration officials said was recovered from Pretti and said “What is that all about? Where are the local Police? Why weren’t they allowed to protect ICE Officers?”
He was peacefully protesting the government's actions, every American's right.
By HANNAH FINGERHUT
Updated 11:50 AM EST, January 25, 2026
Videos quickly emerged showing the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis protester by a Border Patrol agent that has been widely denounced as a case of excessive force carried out by untrained federal officers. The administration says it was a case of an armed man provoking violence.
The Associated Press reviewed multiple bystander videos that show a Border Patrol agent shooting and killing 37-year-old Alex Pretti after a roughly 30-second scuffle around 9 a.m. Saturday. The videos appear to contradict statements by the Trump administration, which said the shots were fired “defensively” against Pretti as he “approached” them with a gun.
In the videos, Pretti is seen with only a phone in his hand. None of the footage appears to show him with a weapon. During the scuffle, agents discovered that he was carrying a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun, and they opened fire with several shots. Pretti was licensed to carry a concealed weapon.
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, who said he watched one of the videos, said he saw “more than six masked agents pummeling one of our constituents, shooting him to death.” Frey has said Minneapolis and St. Paul are being “invaded” by the administration’s largest immigration crackdown, dubbed Operation Metro Surge.
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Pretti attacked officers, and Customs and Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino said Pretti wanted to do “maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.” In posts on X, President Donald Trump’s deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, called Pretti “a would-be assassin.”
It was the second fatal shooting in Minneapolis by federal immigration authorities this month. The first, on Jan. 7, involved Renee Good. It also was captured on videos and produced a similar schism among political leaders.
The shooting occurred when officers were pursuing a man in the country illegally wanted for domestic assault, Bovino said. Protesters routinely try to disrupt such operations, and they sounded high-pitched whistles, honked horns and yelled at officers.
Among them was Pretti. At one point, in a video obtained by AP, Pretti is standing in the street and holding up his phone. He is face-to-face with an officer in a tactical vest, who places his hand on Pretti and pushes him toward the sidewalk.
Pretti is talking to the officer, though it is not clear what he is saying.
The video shows protesters wandering in and out of the street as officers persist in trying to keep them at bay. One protester is put in handcuffs. Some officers are carrying pepper spray canisters.
Pretti comes in again when the video shows an officer wearing tactical gear shoving a protester. The protester, who is wearing a skirt over black tights and holding a water bottle, reaches out for Pretti.
The same officer shoves Pretti in his chest, leading Pretti and the other protester to stumble backward.
A different video then shows Pretti moving toward another protester, who falls over after being shoved by the same officer. Pretti moves between the protester and the officer, reaching his arms out toward the officer.
The officer deploys pepper spray, and Pretti raises his hand and turns his face. The officer grabs Pretti’s hand to bring it behind his back, deploys the pepper spray canister again and then pushes Pretti away.
Seconds later, at least a half-dozen federal officers surround Pretti, who is wrestled to the ground and hit several times. Several agents try to bring Pretti’s arms behind his back, and he struggles.
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Videos show an officer, who is hovering over the scuffle with his right hand on Pretti’s back, backs away from the group with what appears to be a gun in his right hand just before the first shot.
Someone shouts “gun, gun.” It is not clear if that’s a reference to the weapon authorities say Pretti had.
And then the first shot is heard.
Videos do not clearly show who fired the first shot. In one video, seconds before the first shot, one officer reaches for his belt and appears to draw his gun. That same officer is seen with a gun to Pretti’s back as three more shots ring out. Pretti slumps to the ground. Videos show the officers backing away, some with guns drawn. More shots are fired.
The Department of Homeland Security said Pretti was shot after he “approached” Border Patrol officers with a gun. Officials did not say if Pretti brandished the weapon or kept it hidden.
An agency statement said officers fired “defensive shots” after Pretti “violently resisted” officers tried to disarm him.
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz expressed dismay at the characterization.
“I’ve seen the videos, from several angles, and it’s sickening,” he said.
Trump weighed in on social media by lashing out Walz and Frey. Trump shared images of the gun that immigration officials said was recovered from Pretti and said “What is that all about? Where are the local Police? Why weren’t they allowed to protect ICE Officers?”
Let's look at this.
it's OK to be armed. It's OK to protest. It's OK to be armed at a protest. It's NOT OK TO DEFY or OBSTRUCT or INTERFERE with law enforcement. It's even more stupid to do that while you are ARMED and have made it clear that you consider the Government --- the group you are obstructing and defying --- to be the reason you showed up Armed. That is stupidity Amplified.
More STUPIDITY. Weird how there are MANY different videos of this--- and those people weren't all MURDERED. Fucking stupid tweet. Could it be that there were MISTAKES MADE that lead to this death? Could the ONE GUY who disarmed Pretti have screamed "HE IS DISARMED -- I HAVE HIS WEAPON! -- CUFF HIM AND STAND DOWN!" -- Do you suppose THAT might have lead to a different outcome? OR... do you think ICE targeted him for DEATH?
"Execution"??? Fucking STUPID.
"Execution" again... Fucking STUPID again. Only stupid people would truly believe that the implications of this WORD apply to this situation where deeply FATAL MISTAKES were made leading to that man being wrongly shot.
Who is defending it? If anyone is defending the idea that getting into a physical confrontation with law enforcement while you are ARMED is somehow OK or remotely smart, then they are idiots who don't want to look at the whole story here. Fuck this tweet. Fuck the agent who retrieved that weapon and never TOLD THE OTHER AGENTS the guy was disarmed.
BigRedFish-- I am truly at a loss as to why you would post this collection of bullshit tweets regarding this bullshit situation. I appreciate your criticisms of Trump and/or current policies across a wide range of issues. These tweets though-- They are as FAR from reality as the bulk of Noem's comments, or that fucking two-faced asshole Walz, or that piece of shit commie Mayor Frey.
This is simple. People need to let ICE do their damn job and stay the fuck out of the way. WALZ AND FREY HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. I guarantee that Nobody will get fucking SHOT if they do that, just like NOBODY who stayed back and did not interfere was able to take video and Not get shot or arrested. This shit is not rocket science, but Walz and Frey can't fucking figure out that THEY DO NOT GET TO TELL ICE WHERE OR WHEN THEY GET TO DO THEIR JOB.
it's OK to be armed. It's OK to protest. It's OK to be armed at a protest. It's NOT OK TO DEFY or OBSTRUCT or INTERFERE with law enforcement. It's even more stupid to do that while you are ARMED and have made it clear that you consider the Government --- the group you are obstructing and defying --- to be the reason you showed up Armed. That is stupidity Amplified.
More STUPIDITY. Weird how there are MANY different videos of this--- and those people weren't all MURDERED. Fucking stupid tweet. Could it be that there were MISTAKES MADE that lead to this death? Could the ONE GUY who disarmed Pretti have screamed "HE IS DISARMED -- I HAVE HIS WEAPON! -- CUFF HIM AND STAND DOWN!" -- Do you suppose THAT might have lead to a different outcome? OR... do you think ICE targeted him for DEATH?
"Execution"??? Fucking STUPID.
"Execution" again... Fucking STUPID again. Only stupid people would truly believe that the implications of this WORD apply to this situation where deeply FATAL MISTAKES were made leading to that man being wrongly shot.
Who is defending it? If anyone is defending the idea that getting into a physical confrontation with law enforcement while you are ARMED is somehow OK or remotely smart, then they are idiots who don't want to look at the whole story here. Fuck this tweet. Fuck the agent who retrieved that weapon and never TOLD THE OTHER AGENTS the guy was disarmed.
BigRedFish-- I am truly at a loss as to why you would post this collection of bullshit tweets regarding this bullshit situation. I appreciate your criticisms of Trump and/or current policies across a wide range of issues. These tweets though-- They are as FAR from reality as the bulk of Noem's comments, or that fucking two-faced asshole Walz, or that piece of shit commie Mayor Frey.
This is simple. People need to let ICE do their damn job and stay the fuck out of the way. WALZ AND FREY HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. I guarantee that Nobody will get fucking SHOT if they do that, just like NOBODY who stayed back and did not interfere was able to take video and Not get shot or arrested. This shit is not rocket science, but Walz and Frey can't fucking figure out that THEY DO NOT GET TO TELL ICE WHERE OR WHEN THEY GET TO DO THEIR JOB.