bigredfish
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They're just running him back and forth.
Time (wayyy past time) to say Fuck Off, you guys go at it
Ukraine related: Was Ukraine Government Is Handing Out Guns To Citizens, What Happened to Gun Control?
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They're just running him back and forth.
Time (wayyy past time) to say Fuck Off, you guys go at it
bigredfish
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Russia Thwarts Largest Drone Attack In History, Sparking Airport Chaos, Hours Before Victory Day Ceasefire
Russia Thwarts Largest Drone Attack In History, Sparking Airport Chaos, Hours Before Victory Day Ceasefire | ZeroHedge
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bigredfish
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Wait what?
I thought a ceasefire and peace were just playing into Putins plans for world domination?
I thought a ceasefire and peace were just playing into Putins plans for world domination?
vandyman
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I am all for sending the gun twirling murders to Ukraine.
Give them crack, hair spray and guns.
Give them crack, hair spray and guns.
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Yes, if the Cease Fire was under the conditions that Putin demanded ..
( basically during the cease fire Ukraine does not get any shipments for arms and munitions, sanctions are lifted on Russia, Ukraine can not recruit into their military .. all while Russia can get arms and munitions from Iran, N Korea, China and others .. )
The point is to show the world that Putin is not serious about a cease fire
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Drones warfare will allow smaller opponents to really hit the major military players hard ..
not good when you image the terrorists using drones within USA, EU ..
Sybertiger
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You would hope that the US military has been hot on the race to develop inexpensive but reliable drones then some sort of anti-drone technology. Not sure what that gizmo that cuts fiber optics lines looks like. Or is it some kind of gizmo that can detect where the active fiber optic is coming from and/or going to.
This is an interesting video unlike others I have watched. It seems to show battle footage from BOTH sides??? So--true account, or fabricated story line from other collected footage??
Putin, for Ukraine peace, wants a pledge to halt NATO enlargement, sources say
Kremlin Issues Outline Of Putin's Truce Demands, Warns "Peace Tomorrow Will Be Even More Painful"
"Multiple Russian sources cited in the reaport said Putin wants a "written" pledge by major Western powers not to enlarge the NATO military alliance eastward. This is being taken to mean he's asking to West to formal ruling out ever extending membership to Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova."
Why is this even a negotiating point? Even the hint of expanding NATO to touch Russia's border is an obvious provocation. This would be the equivalent of the Warsaw Pact, in its day, expanding to Cuba and/or Mexico. With a justified mistrust of the US, I can see Putin rationalizing that if NATO is going to move into Ukraine, he may as well take it himself first.
I'm not making any statement about Putin being a good guy or bad guy. This is just such a blatant common sense issue that the war lovers keep explaining away. Along with the assurance of NATO not moving in, NATO can demand a mirror-image written pledge that Russia will never move in. Then if either side violates, we can rev up the war again.
Kremlin Issues Outline Of Putin's Truce Demands, Warns "Peace Tomorrow Will Be Even More Painful"
"Multiple Russian sources cited in the reaport said Putin wants a "written" pledge by major Western powers not to enlarge the NATO military alliance eastward. This is being taken to mean he's asking to West to formal ruling out ever extending membership to Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova."
Why is this even a negotiating point? Even the hint of expanding NATO to touch Russia's border is an obvious provocation. This would be the equivalent of the Warsaw Pact, in its day, expanding to Cuba and/or Mexico. With a justified mistrust of the US, I can see Putin rationalizing that if NATO is going to move into Ukraine, he may as well take it himself first.
I'm not making any statement about Putin being a good guy or bad guy. This is just such a blatant common sense issue that the war lovers keep explaining away. Along with the assurance of NATO not moving in, NATO can demand a mirror-image written pledge that Russia will never move in. Then if either side violates, we can rev up the war again.