A little further back than that
The Bible's First War!
How was Abraham dragged into the Bible's first war? Whom did he fight? How did he achieve victory though outnumbered?
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bigredfish
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Their return to their land:
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The First Aliyah (1882-1903)
Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.
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The region of Palestine is part of the wider region of the Levant, which represents the land bridge between Africa and Eurasia.<a href="History of Palestine - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> The areas of the Levant traditionally serve as the "crossroads of Western Asia, the Eastern Mediterranean, and Northeast Africa",<a href="History of Palestine - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> and in tectonic terms are located in the "northwest of the Arabian Plate".<a href="History of Palestine - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> Palestine itself was among the earliest regions to see human habitation, agricultural communities and civilization. Because of its location, it has historically been seen as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce, and politics. In the Bronze Age, the Canaanites established city-states influenced by surrounding civilizations, among them Egypt, which ruled the area in the Late Bronze Age. During the Iron Age, two related Israelite kingdoms, Israel and Judah, controlled much of Palestine, while the Philistines occupied its southern coast. The Assyrians conquered the region in the 8th century BCE, then the Babylonians c. 601 BCE, followed by the Persian Achaemenid Empirethat conquered the Babylonian Empire in 539 BCE. Alexander the Great conquered the Persian Empire in the late 330s BCE, beginning Hellenization.
Maps of Ottoman Palestine showing the Kazasubdivisions.
In the late 2nd-century BCE Maccabean Revolt, the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdomconquered most of Palestine; the kingdom subsequently became a vassal of Rome, which annexed it in 63 BCE. Roman Judea was troubled by Jewish revolts in 66 CE, so Rome destroyed Jerusalem and the Second Jewish Temple in 70 CE. In the 4th century, as the Roman Empire adopted Christianity, Palestine became a center for the religion, attracting pilgrims, monks and scholars. Following Muslim conquest of the Levant in 636–641, ruling dynasties succeeded each other: the Rashiduns; Umayyads, Abbasids; the semi-independent Tulunids and Ikhshidids; Fatimids; and the Seljuks. In 1099, the First Crusaderesulted in Crusaders establishing of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, which was reconquered by the Ayyubid Sultanate in 1187. Following the invasion of the Mongol Empire in the late 1250s, the Egyptian Mamluks reunified Palestine under its control, before the region was conquered by the Ottoman Empire in 1516, being ruled as Ottoman Syria until the 20th century largely without dispute.
During World War I, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, favoring the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, and captured it from the Ottomans. The League of Nations gave Britain mandatory power over Palestine in 1922. British rule and Arab efforts to prevent Jewish migration led to growing violence between Arabs and Jews, causing the British to announce its intention to terminate the Mandate in 1947. The UN General Assemblyrecommended partitioning Palestine into two states: Arab and Jewish. However, the situation deteriorated into a civil war. The Arabs rejected the Partition Plan, the Jews ostensibly accepted it, declaring the independence of the State of Israel in May 1948 upon the end of the British mandate. Nearby Arab countries invaded Palestine, Israel not only prevailed, but conquered more territory than envisioned by the Partition Plan. During the war, 700,000, or about 80% of all Palestinians fled or were driven out of territory Israel conquered and were not allowed to return, an event known as the Nakba (Arabic for 'catastrophe') to Palestinians. Starting in the late 1940s and continuing for decades, about 850,000 Jews from the Arab worldimmigrated ("made Aliyah") to Israel.
After the war, only two parts of Palestine remained in Arab control: the West Bank and East Jerusalem were annexed by Jordan, and the Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt, which were conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War in 1967. Despite international objections, Israel started to establish settlements in these occupied territories.<a href="History of Palestine - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> Meanwhile, the Palestinian national movement gained international recognition, thanks to the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under Yasser Arafat. In 1993, the Oslo Peace Accordsbetween Israel and the PLO established the Palestinian Authority (PA), an interim body to run Gaza and the West Bank (but not East Jerusalem), pending a permanent solution. Further peace developments were not ratified and/or implemented, and relations between Israel and Palestinians has been marked by conflict, especially with Islamist Hamas, which rejects the PA. In 2007, Hamas won control of Gaza from the PA, now limited to the West Bank. In 2012, the State of Palestine (the name used by the PA) became a non-member observer state in the UN, allowing it to take part in General Assembly debates and improving its chances of joining other UN agencies.
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Maps of Ottoman Palestine showing the Kazasubdivisions.
In the late 2nd-century BCE Maccabean Revolt, the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdomconquered most of Palestine; the kingdom subsequently became a vassal of Rome, which annexed it in 63 BCE. Roman Judea was troubled by Jewish revolts in 66 CE, so Rome destroyed Jerusalem and the Second Jewish Temple in 70 CE. In the 4th century, as the Roman Empire adopted Christianity, Palestine became a center for the religion, attracting pilgrims, monks and scholars. Following Muslim conquest of the Levant in 636–641, ruling dynasties succeeded each other: the Rashiduns; Umayyads, Abbasids; the semi-independent Tulunids and Ikhshidids; Fatimids; and the Seljuks. In 1099, the First Crusaderesulted in Crusaders establishing of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, which was reconquered by the Ayyubid Sultanate in 1187. Following the invasion of the Mongol Empire in the late 1250s, the Egyptian Mamluks reunified Palestine under its control, before the region was conquered by the Ottoman Empire in 1516, being ruled as Ottoman Syria until the 20th century largely without dispute.
During World War I, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, favoring the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, and captured it from the Ottomans. The League of Nations gave Britain mandatory power over Palestine in 1922. British rule and Arab efforts to prevent Jewish migration led to growing violence between Arabs and Jews, causing the British to announce its intention to terminate the Mandate in 1947. The UN General Assemblyrecommended partitioning Palestine into two states: Arab and Jewish. However, the situation deteriorated into a civil war. The Arabs rejected the Partition Plan, the Jews ostensibly accepted it, declaring the independence of the State of Israel in May 1948 upon the end of the British mandate. Nearby Arab countries invaded Palestine, Israel not only prevailed, but conquered more territory than envisioned by the Partition Plan. During the war, 700,000, or about 80% of all Palestinians fled or were driven out of territory Israel conquered and were not allowed to return, an event known as the Nakba (Arabic for 'catastrophe') to Palestinians. Starting in the late 1940s and continuing for decades, about 850,000 Jews from the Arab worldimmigrated ("made Aliyah") to Israel.
After the war, only two parts of Palestine remained in Arab control: the West Bank and East Jerusalem were annexed by Jordan, and the Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt, which were conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War in 1967. Despite international objections, Israel started to establish settlements in these occupied territories.<a href="History of Palestine - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> Meanwhile, the Palestinian national movement gained international recognition, thanks to the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under Yasser Arafat. In 1993, the Oslo Peace Accordsbetween Israel and the PLO established the Palestinian Authority (PA), an interim body to run Gaza and the West Bank (but not East Jerusalem), pending a permanent solution. Further peace developments were not ratified and/or implemented, and relations between Israel and Palestinians has been marked by conflict, especially with Islamist Hamas, which rejects the PA. In 2007, Hamas won control of Gaza from the PA, now limited to the West Bank. In 2012, the State of Palestine (the name used by the PA) became a non-member observer state in the UN, allowing it to take part in General Assembly debates and improving its chances of joining other UN agencies.
bigredfish
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Ok I see your 3000 years.
www.palestineremembered.com
You can have it.
If we’re gonna go back 3000 years I’m a little worried about the folks in Texas and New Mexico though…
Palestinian History, A Chronology - Palestine Remembered
Chronology of Palestinian History with timelines; step by step. In a nutshell this is Palestinian History for dummies/beginners.
www.palestineremembered.com
You can have it.
If we’re gonna go back 3000 years I’m a little worried about the folks in Texas and New Mexico though…
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And it would seem much of North America belongs to the Siberians after all.
Well poop
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Peopling of the Americas - Wikipedia
Blows me away when people throw out the word "Genocide" They have no idea what that means. No different than throwing out the word "Racist" Amazing the ignorance in the world today....
You will NOT see the Gazan "Palestinian" people become extinct, ever...the many countries that have dealt with them, now Israel, there is no genocide...you cannot genocide Islam...will never happen...
bigredfish
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LOL, before Adam and Eve? LOLOk I see your 3000 years.
Palestinian History, A Chronology - Palestine Remembered
Chronology of Palestinian History with timelines; step by step. In a nutshell this is Palestinian History for dummies/beginners.
You can have it.
If we’re gonna go back 3000 years I’m a little worried about the folks in Texas and New Mexico though…
And it would seem much of North America belongs to the Siberians after all.
Well poop
Peopling of the Americas - Wikipedia
Opinion stated as fact? bigred already beat me with a few details of the opposite point of view. With all of the shit propaganda flying around, I doubt that any of us here know squat about the real truth for both of the US's wars right now.
@bigredfish I want to apologize for the laughing, it was not at you, Wikipedia has been real laughable to me over these last years. Not saying there is not some truth in them pages, just seem less and less each time I see anything from that site. I highly question the narrative being pushed from
I went back on this Thread to see the comments when this war first started. We all were furious what Hamas did. Now almost 2 years later.
I have had thoughts of what if the Indian reservations did something like this to us. What would our response be?
Maybe Israel's mistake was not forcing language and religion on the Gazans 20 years ago...
I have had thoughts of what if the Indian reservations did something like this to us. What would our response be?
Maybe Israel's mistake was not forcing language and religion on the Gazans 20 years ago...
bigredfish
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True. No I don’t get upset over smilies 
and yes Wikipedia is clearly liberal slanted. It’s a good starting point on many topics though
And I don’t take any of it personally. Anyone willing to argue their position in good faith is ok in my book.
For instance you know far more about the Bible and the history contained therein than I do. You actually forced me to start digging in to learn more.
I briefly touched on the rabbit hole of Gilgamesh and how it may have influenced the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament , and now my brain hurts
and yes Wikipedia is clearly liberal slanted. It’s a good starting point on many topics thoughAnd I don’t take any of it personally. Anyone willing to argue their position in good faith is ok in my book.
For instance you know far more about the Bible and the history contained therein than I do. You actually forced me to start digging in to learn more.
I briefly touched on the rabbit hole of Gilgamesh and how it may have influenced the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament , and now my brain hurts
bigredfish
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Israel had every right to extract revenge.
But at some point it went from that to total annihilation of a population. Every war has limits. I suppose it’s a matter of different perspectives on where those are.
bigredfish
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True. No I don’t get upset over smilies
And I don’t take any of it personally. Anyone willing to argue their position in good faith is ok in my book.
For instance you know far more about the Bible and the history contained therein than I do. You actually forced me to start digging in to learn more.
I briefly touched on the rabbit hole of Gilgamesh and how it may have influenced the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament , and now my brain hurts
The Akkadian text of the Epic of Gilgameshwas first discovered in 1849 AD by the English archaeologist Austen Henry Layard in the Library of Ashurbanipal at Nineveh.[22][50][28]: 95 Layard was seeking evidence to confirm the historicity of the events described in the Hebrew Bible, i.e. the Christian Old Testament,[22] which was believed to contain the oldest texts in the world.[22]
Instead, his and later excavations unearthed much older Mesopotamian texts[22] and showed that many of the stories in the Old Testament may be derived from earlier myths told throughout the ancient Near East.[22]
The first translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh was produced in the early 1870s by George Smith, a scholar at the British Museum,[79][81][82] who published the Flood story from Tablet XI in 1880 under the title The Chaldean Account of Genesis.[79]Gilgamesh's name was originally misread as Izdubar.[79][83][84]
Early interest in the Epic of Gilgamesh was almost exclusively on account of the flood story from Tablet XI.[85] It attracted enormous public attention and drew widespread scholarly controversy, while the rest of the epic was largely ignored.[85]
Dude, that is awesome. That was not my intension. I actually learned a whole lot when I read the whole Bible.True. No I don’t get upset over smilies
And I don’t take any of it personally. Anyone willing to argue their position in good faith is ok in my book.
For instance you know far more about the Bible and the history contained therein than I do. You actually forced me to start digging in to learn more.
I briefly touched on the rabbit hole of Gilgamesh and how it may have influenced the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament , and now my brain hurts
I could blow you away with what Revelations has to say about the future of Israel. They have a third exodus coming.
All nations will come against Israel. ALL nations, including us, that is if we are still around when this happens.
We are not mentioned in the Bible...