I'm with this too, but none of the free stuff voters are, and we're greatly outnumbered. Plus most of the corporations will support helicopter money because the free stuff people will spend it right away, and the incumbent politicians will like it because the free stuff people will continue to vote for them.
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Or, it will be like the last time they "gave" away free money, and a good number of us didn't receive a red cent.
Hmmm, not sure, our kids are in their 30-40s...maybe so...
Truthfully, I am with @Sybertiger :
"GDI, quit handing out money. Pay down the debt and quit spending on nonsense. Sheesh!"
Never have been for free money nonsense handouts...If I remember right we never even cashed one of our checks we got way back. Think we talked ourselves into cashing them though later but gave the money to the church or charity, if my memory serves me right. I know TurboTax kept asking if we got one...
If $2k comes our way now? Don't really know what we will do, guessing after praying on it, we will give it to someone in need...we try to leave those decisions to the Big Guy in the Sky
Fully agree with both of you.
Worth noting that a report this week showed the US consumer is or will soon be paying for close to 70% of the tariffs.
Remember foreign sellers don’t pay, the importer pays, passes it to the domestic seller, who at some point passes it to you.
It’s your money you’re getting back
The opinion is that domestic companies have held off passing much of it on, but have become impatient as their costs rise and will over the coming months pass much if not most of it to the consumer.
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Trump Won. Democrats Lost.
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The Shutdown Looks Done. Trump Won, Democrats Lost.
At long last, well over a month after it started, it appears that we are now nearing the end of the government shutdown, because last night, Democrats in the Senate caved.Eight of them approved moving forward with the procedural vote, which would move the process toward the end of the government...
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I know y'all are shocked to learn this. LOL.
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In Houston, I remember those from Hurricane Katrina were flooding into Houston, no pun intended, had to be devastating for all those people to lose their homes.
They were given spending cards. Unfortunately there were some that used them at Strip Clubs, they later found out.
With groceries still high, as I have mentioned, restaurants are at that same point, having to raise prices, credit to them for holding out this long...Sadly, for us retired folks we can't afford to eat out as much so it hurts the restaurants too, less customers. On our fixed income we can only help those restaurants that we can afford, the ones that still has reasonable pricing.
Hopefully we will get one more Christmas before everything goes to
<--- That is not a brown Christmas Tree, hahahaOh how convenient, right after the Elections...hmmmTrump Won. Democrats Lost.
The Shutdown Looks Done. Trump Won, Democrats Lost.
At long last, well over a month after it started, it appears that we are now nearing the end of the government shutdown, because last night, Democrats in the Senate caved.Eight of them approved moving forward with the procedural vote, which would move the process toward the end of the government...
A happy camper...
Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly ‘much happier’ after prison transfer by Trump officials
Whistleblower docs show Maxwell seeking commutation, receiving ‘concierge-style treatment’ in prison
Documents provided by a whistleblower show Ghislaine Maxwell has asked President Trump to commute her sentence as prison employees suggest she has received “concierge-style treatment” at a new facility where she is being given custom meals and access to staff facilities.
Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly ‘much happier’ after prison transfer by Trump officials
Whistleblower docs show Maxwell seeking commutation, receiving ‘concierge-style treatment’ in prison
Documents provided by a whistleblower show Ghislaine Maxwell has asked President Trump to commute her sentence as prison employees suggest she has received “concierge-style treatment” at a new facility where she is being given custom meals and access to staff facilities.
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Victor Davis Hanson: Confronting Conservative Antisemitism
Nov 10, 2025 Victor Davis Hanson: In a Few Words
Tucker Carlson’s interview with controversial right-wing podcaster Nick Fuentes has snowballed into a bigger conversation that has everyone asking: Does the Right have a serious issue with antisemitism?
Victor Davis Hanson explains how conservative icons like William F. Buckley once handled extremists, contrasts that with today’s platforms, and explores why some on the Right are now flirting with the same rhetoric on Israel that echoes leftwing sentiments. How should the conservative movement handle this divide? Hanson breaks it down on today’s episode of “Victor Davis Hanson: In a Few Words.”
“I think the reason for the rise of antisemitism is an element, the isolationist base of the MAGA movement, felt that it was the driving force and that it was going to be isolationist and we were not going to get involved in the Middle East. And they were very suspicious of so-called, what they call neocons and what they call Christian Zionists. As Tucker said, he hates Christian Zionists over any other people. Even bin Laden? Al-Qaeda? ISIS? I don't know. But they were losing influence. Donald Trump proved that he is not a neoisolation. He's a Jacksonian. Targeted strikes to preserve and enhance U.S. deterrents.”
Nov 10, 2025 Victor Davis Hanson: In a Few Words
Tucker Carlson’s interview with controversial right-wing podcaster Nick Fuentes has snowballed into a bigger conversation that has everyone asking: Does the Right have a serious issue with antisemitism?
Victor Davis Hanson explains how conservative icons like William F. Buckley once handled extremists, contrasts that with today’s platforms, and explores why some on the Right are now flirting with the same rhetoric on Israel that echoes leftwing sentiments. How should the conservative movement handle this divide? Hanson breaks it down on today’s episode of “Victor Davis Hanson: In a Few Words.”
“I think the reason for the rise of antisemitism is an element, the isolationist base of the MAGA movement, felt that it was the driving force and that it was going to be isolationist and we were not going to get involved in the Middle East. And they were very suspicious of so-called, what they call neocons and what they call Christian Zionists. As Tucker said, he hates Christian Zionists over any other people. Even bin Laden? Al-Qaeda? ISIS? I don't know. But they were losing influence. Donald Trump proved that he is not a neoisolation. He's a Jacksonian. Targeted strikes to preserve and enhance U.S. deterrents.”
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"Unfortunately there were some that used them at Strip Clubs, they later found out."
Hey Arjun .. were you impacted by Katrina ?
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President Trump’s promise to hand people tariff cash is absurd economics, but it is clever politics
President Donald Trump now says he wants to give away the government’s tariff revenues as a $2,000 check to almost everyone — or at least to “low and middle income USA Citizens.”
But it’s not even three months since his administration was boasting that the same revenue was going to be used to cut the federal government deficit by $4 trillion over the next 10 years.
And it’s not even two months since Trump was saying he wanted to use the money to bail out farmers.
Go back far enough and you’ll see Trump, then a candidate running for a second term in the White House, saying he wanted to use the same tariff revenue to eliminate income taxes and lower the cost of child care.
Meanwhile, if you go back to the middle of last week, you’ll see Trump administration lawyers telling the Supreme Court that the purpose of the tariffs wasn’t to raise any money at all.
What all that means is that anyone hoping to get a $2,000 check is likely to be disappointed.
This $2,000 promise may be financially impossible, but it is politically very savvy. It is good politics.
To understand why, you need to follow the data from polling company Rasmussen, which is my go-to for Trump precisely because it leans Republican and is least likely to be distorted by any form of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
According to Rasmussen’s latest daily numbers, about 31% of voters still “strongly approve” of President Trump’s job performance. That number hit a low of 29% shortly after his “liberation day” tariff announcement in April. (For comparison, when Richard Nixon had to resign over Watergate in 1974, about 24% of voters said they still supported him). That’s Trump’s base — the core, the folks in red hats and “Gulf of America” T-shirts.
For them, Trump’s promise of $2,000 in free money is real — if only the darn Deep State, or the swamp, or the communists and crooks in Washington don’t stop him.
Just over a year ago, Tesla CEO Elon Musk was promising there was $2 trillion in free money to be had by eliminating “waste, fraud and abuse” in the federal budget. After the 2024 election, Musk admitted the figure was far lower than that. Then in the spring, he backtracked further. Finally he left Washington, saying mysterious figures had stopped him from finding the money.
It is a general rule that people who believe in conspiracy theories cling to them like barnacles. Every single refutation of their conspiracy theory just proves that the conspiracy goes even further and deeper than they thought. Demonstrate that their conspiracy theory is, say, disproved by the law of gravity, and they will conclude … that Sir Isaac Newton was “in on it” too.
It is a fair bet that at least some of Trump’s base believe that the same money can be used for multiple different purposes, and that when he is thwarted it will be yet more proof of the Q-Anon or Deep State conspiracy, run from the hidden basement of a pizzeria in Washington, D.C.
Still, there’s no getting around the federal budget. Last year, Social Security, Medicare, defense and debt interest in aggregate cost 84% of all federal tax revenues, including FICA. These are the facts.
But we live in an increasingly fragmented as well as polarized world. A 30% voting bloc is a minority. At the same time, it may also be a powerful plurality — especially if it stays motivated, and the other 70% is splintered into lots of different groups.
When Trump made this $2,000 promise, I took it as a sign that he thinks he might lose the tariff battle at the Supreme Court. If that happens, he will be able to tell his 30% voting bloc that they would have gotten $2,000 in free money but for the Deep State agents on the Supreme Court.
You will never see a $2,000 tariff-rebate check
President Trump’s promise to hand people tariff cash is absurd economics, but it is clever politics.
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If we are at War, then Congress needs to declare it.
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It seems to me that at this point the cat is out of the bag... wouldn't Trump/GOP lawmakers be nuts not the extend the enhanced credits for a year for a lousy $30 billion? Save themselves a lot of explaining going into the mid-terms?
15 year auto loans…. I’m, uh, er.. mmmkay
The official (unreleased) economic numbers must be devastating…
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This needs to be looked at with the current definition of antisemitism, which is questioning anything about Israel, even if you're correct.
So, 2 to 3 weeks is Dec 1... by then the Trump admin will "hand out" a contract... always with the 2 to 3 weeks