Wizmind camera's with Wizsense nvr

[pho450]

Hi all, I'm new to the world of security camera's, so excuse me if I ask stupid things.
As they are recommended a lot, I'm considering to buy a set of hdw5442 camera's. I'm however still a bit lost on the nvr. The wizmind nvrs are too expensive for my budget.
Does it make sense to combine wizmind camera's with a wizsense (or even a lite series) nvr? Or does that mean I'm losing a lot of the benefits of the wizmind camera's?

 

[Chokolinho]

Hi all, I'm new to the world of security camera's, so excuse me if I ask stupid things.
As they are recommended a lot, I'm considering to buy a set of hdw5442 camera's. I'm however still a bit lost on the nvr. The wizmind nvrs are too expensive for my budget.
Does it make sense to combine wizmind camera's with a wizsense (or even a lite series) nvr? Or does that mean I'm losing a lot of the benefits of the wizmind camera's?

You cannot use video metadata if you are using a low-end NVR.

 

[bigredfish]

You cannot use video metadata if you are using a low-end NVR.

Depends on what you consider "Low end"

I have an 8 year old 5216-16p-4KS2E that works with VMD just fine

You'll have no problem with Wizsense NVRs and 5442 compatibility, none.

I would stick to the 5 series and not the 4 series, mostly becasue of bandwidth constraints, not functionality

WizSense Series - Dahua International

WizSense Series

www.dahuasecurity.com

 

[Chokolinho]

Hi all, I'm new to the world of security camera's, so excuse me if I ask stupid things.
As they are recommended a lot, I'm considering to buy a set of hdw5442 camera's. I'm however still a bit lost on the nvr. The wizmind nvrs are too expensive for my budget.
Does it make sense to combine wizmind camera's with a wizsense (or even a lite series) nvr? Or does that mean I'm losing a lot of the benefits of the wizmind camera's?

For example, I have the NVR5208-8P-EI.

 

[wittaj]

Keep in mind that WizSense and Wizmind are simply marketing terms.

WizSense is geared towards the smaller installations (and usually cheaper cameras) and WizMind is geared towards businesses (usually more expensive cameras) - so things like people counting, loitering, etc. are important to them (although some of the 5442 (54IR) series has those as well).

You need to look at each camera and figure out which one you need and how many you want to do AI with. So you may have to double the number of channels for the NVR than you have number of cameras to do what you want.

Having the NVR do the AI instead of the camera cripples the capacity of the NVR and some parameters by half.

For example the 8 channel NVR8CH-8P-2AI is only capable of doing AI on 4 cameras, not all 8. So if you have 6 cameras you want the NVR to do AI on, the 8 channel NVR won't cut it.

And if you use the AI in the NVR, then the bandwidth is cut tremendously.

 

[bigredfish]

^^^^
This but he said he's getting 5442's so there is no need for the NVR to do AI in 99% of most home installations

 

[wittaj]

Yep, but wanted to point out in the event they decided to go cheaper on cams and spend more on the NVR that this comes at a price. Better to spend on the cams.

 

[Chokolinho]

Depends on what you consider "Low end"

I have an 8 year old 5216-16p-4KS2E that works with VMD just fine

You'll have no problem with Wizsense NVRs and 5442 compatibility, none.

I would stick to the 5 series and not the 4 series, mostly becasue of bandwidth constraints, not functionality

WizSense Series - Dahua International

WizSense Series

www.dahuasecurity.com

Do you use full video metadata + IVS AI by Recorder on your Z4E?

 

[bigredfish]

Do you use full video metadata + IVS AI by Recorder on your Z4E?

No. I have no AI by recorder on the NVR, too old.

I use VMD alone on that Z4 camera itself.

The NVR can record the VMD events from the camera, but not trigger them by itself like newer NVRs

 

[Chokolinho]

No. I have no AI by recorder.

I use VMD alone on that Z4

Haven't you ever had the problem that sometimes not everything that passes through and drives through is recorded?

 

[bigredfish]

Rarely, but I have 4 other cameras that see the street running IVS

 

[Chokolinho]

Rarely, but I have 4 other cameras that see the street running IVS


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Ah, okay. I'll try AI with the recorder now. Let's see how well it triggers.

 

[bigredfish]

Run VMD by itself on the camera and IVS on the recorder if you have concerns.

 

[Chokolinho]

Run VMD by itself on the camera and IVS on the recorder if you have concerns.

I'm testing it right now. So far, it's working great.

 

[Chokolinho]

I'm testing it right now. So far, it's working great.

Could you adjust it like that, or would you leave it as it is?

 

[bigredfish]

That should be fine