Running cabling "out" through vinyl siding, and up the exterior for mounting location // Street view location

Dave88LX

Dave88LX

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Jul 13, 2016
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I have a Dahua IPC-HFW5431EP-Z5 that I want to mount near the front corner of the side of my house, aiming at the stree. I'll have it tightend up to basically cover sidewalk-to-sidewalk or so, maybe tighter, will have to play with it once it's up. Vehicle capture, hopefully plates too.

Probably be adding a second camera at the rear of the house covering the side yard/basement window, so this one is specifically for cars on the road.
I am thinking I will be mounting it "around" this area. I have a couple options to run the cables, not sure which is more correct or better, and why.

If you have other ideas then please feel free to throw them out there as well.
I know I should essentially get it right into conduit and run that up to the junction box that will be mounted to the side of the house.
I have vinyl siding surface mounting blocks to attach the camera mount/junction box onto.
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I have Dahua PFA137 junction boxes for the camera mounting.

I do have a conduit bender and am comfortable forming conduit if that is the answer.

I'm just not sure exactly what to do with the cable when it comes out of the siding and best practice to run this correctly.

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Basement -- Can see my other bundle of cables and the fiber.
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Something like this is what I'm thinking:
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I just installed a camera on the corner under the eave. I ran the cable in the corner piece of the siding down to water spigot level. I put caulking in the hole and sealed the top using a siding repair kit then painted it the same color as the siding.

Here is the view:
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I did similar in last 2 story home. It was much more difficult to do under the eave of a two story home with cement board siding.
I pre mounted the camera base on a sheet of aluminum and mounted the aluminum to the eave. I also utilized thin cat6 outdoor cable.

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Outside to house view at night:

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Going to basement. Having a basement made it very easy to wire.
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I have another camera mounted on the eave in the back of the house facing the front. Here is a moon picture.

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pete_c said:
I just installed a camera on the corner under the eave. I ran the cable in the corner piece of the siding down to water spigot level. I put caulking in the hole and sealed the top using a siding repair kit then painted it the same color as the siding.
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Yeah my eaves are way way too high. I do have a 2" conduit running from the basement up to the attic, however the 18"+ of blown-in insulation will make maneuvering up there a nightmare.

I believe (and you'll all correct me if I'm wrong) that this height will give me a good reading of cars/plates without being in the "reflection zone" or whatever where the lights ruin the image.

I'll test it out on a 2x4 mount before making it permanent.

I think a conduit LB is what I'm looking for where it comes out of the house.
 
Dave88LX

Thread 'Solution to add a couple LPR cameras — here's my setup in question'

NVR: NVR5416-4KS2
Cam: IPC-HFW5431E-Z5
State: Pennsylvania, rear plates only
After doing a lot of reading on here, I see myself upgrading to BI in the future. For now, just going to keep trucking with this NVR and getting cameras up and going.

I'd like to add a pair of cameras to grab plates. My thought is to mount them on the vertical surface of the front of the house, below the eaves. Soffit-mounted is also a possibility.
Vertical surface, or soffit, and why?

Being that I'm on the corner of this circle, I have the angles to get both directions pretty well before...

Ugh. Don't you hate when you asked something almost 3 years ago, then life got in the way and you forgot you asked? :banghead:

I found my own old thread while searching for an answer. God Bless the search function! I'll go do some reading on things that have already been answered.
 
Hi Dave88LX, I would suggest option 1 easiest and safest is to use some direct burial outdoor cat5e cable and hide it behind siding and up inside corner trim. do a drip loop behind down spout and use a cable gland into the junction box. search "cable gland" on this forum as I've seen lots of threads on them here.

or option 2 is drill up inside wall ( see hydro wires going up in wall) in basement and fish it up inside wall. but that could be dangerous as I see hydro meter close by.

Edit Also don’t forget to put a glob of dielectric grease inside the female rj45 port of camera (on the pins) .
 

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Dave88LX said:
the 18"+ of blown-in insulation will make maneuvering up there a nightmare.
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When I was faced with that I used a snow shovel to clear a path.
 
Like Dudemaar said.....and or this idea....you could tuck the Cat5e/ Cat6 whatever your using ( cat5e is thinner) behind the downspout and make a turn at the last siding piece and tuck it under that and then go thru the wall where other stuff is coming in/out
 
Like Dudemaar said.....and or this idea....you could tuck the Cat5e/ Cat6 whatever your using ( cat5e is thinner) behind the downspout and make a turn at the last siding piece and tuck it under that and then go thru the wall where other stuff is coming in/out
 
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In the two story house the attic was 9 foot high in the middle. I built a catwalk out of 4' X 4's in the middle of the attic from one side to another and put lighting in along the top, This made it easy to wire the bedrooms and hallway. Put a chase in the middle of the attic down to the basement. I used in wall speaker cavities for creating the chase. First project there was a good attic foldable stair case and a chandelier lift (similiar to a garage door opener).

For the under eave camera drilled a hole in the eave and used a fiber glass rod to put cable in to the attic. Easy peasy.
 
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I think for this I am going to run my Cat6 inside some 3/4" PVC and Liquidtite up next to the downspout and run it in. I like the idea of outdoor cable, but I already have this Cat6 and don't want to drop the extra money on more cable at this point.

I'll be using a PFA121 mounting box for the camera.

I'm not positive on how to best mount the LB to the vinyl siding where it will come out of the basement though. Any thoughts on that?
 
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I think for this I am going to run my Cat6 inside some 3/4" PVC and Liquidtite up next to the downspout and run it in. I like the idea of outdoor cable, but I already have this Cat6 and don't want to drop the extra money on more cable at this point.

I'll be using a PFA121 mounting box for the camera.

I'm not positive on how to best mount the LB to the vinyl siding where it will come out of the basement though. Any thoughts on that?
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Your going to need to hole saw a 1 inch or bigger hole for a 6" long or so piece of PVC sleeve through the vinyl, then the 5/8 OSB board and then finally through the 2 x 10 rim board and into the basement. If you can get a drill or a 90 deg. drill up in the inside joist there behind where your yellow line is there in the corner by down spout. be sure its all clear of wires and maybe drill from inside to outside. If its clear of wires inside by that corner then drill from outside in. As far as securing the LB I usually pre drill a couple pilot holes inside the LB then screw it to rim board. I also use duct seal putty in behind the LB to seal it up and so it squishes out sides when you screw it tight to the vinyl there. measure (reference) your hole placement off the small white wire.
 
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Good info! I need to rethink part of my plan. I was under the impression that I was going to use all PVC and a plastic LB, but a plastic LB does not have threaded openings.

My thought was to use a foot or so of Liquidtite on the top and bottom end of the vertical PVC run so that I can keep it tighter to the downspout.

I don't want the camera mount too close to the corner so that it's not sticking out past the corner of the house viewed from the other side.
 
PVC = ewwww, brother, ewwww.
better to run 1/2 EMT conduit and flex conduit where needed.
PVC will bend, warp, discolor, shatter after 2-3 years of UV sunlight & freezing temps.

Heck...that short of a run, I would just use 1/2" liquid tight flex non-metallic conduit from start to finish.
Enter into the PFA at the bottom, sharpest curve over to gutter, straight down, penetrate into outside rated single gang box. PFA + junction box utilizes threaded connectors on each end of the flex conduit.

 
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Holbs said:
PVC = ewwww, brother, ewwww.
better to run 1/2 EMT conduit and flex conduit where needed.
PVC will bend, warp, discolor, shatter after 2-3 years of UV sunlight & freezing temps.

Heck...that short of a run, I would just use 1/2" liquid tight flex non-metallic conduit from start to finish.
Enter into the PFA at the bottom, sharpest curve over to gutter, straight down, penetrate into outside rated single gang box. PFA + junction box utilizes threaded connectors on each end of the flex conduit.

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either way you should sleeve it.
 
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Man I'm sitting at home Depot right now going crazy trying to piece this together.

Almost have everything I want but I would need a 3/4 inch pvc female threaded adapter to connect a liquid tight to the PVC pipe and they don't have any.

Going to read and think here.
 
I am happy to run 1/2" but I thought I would need 3/4" for easier pulling.

Not like it's a long run anyways.

Fingers they only have 100 ft roll of half inch non-metallic tubing, not the 25'.

Hole in the bottom of the PFA is also 3/4", I'll have to see if they make an adapter.
 
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I am happy to run 1/2" but I thought I would need 3/4" for easier pulling.

Not like it's a long run anyways.

Fingers they only have 100 ft roll of half inch non-metallic tubing, not the 25'.

Hole in the bottom of the PFA is also 3/4", I'll have to see if they make an adapter.
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You are only running 1 Cat5e or 1 Cat6, correct?
Could run a single cable in 3/8" conduit (EMT or flex).
Now, if you were running 4 or 5 cables, that is when upsizing is smart.
 
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