Does the P5D-5F-PV Camera Support ONVIF Protocol?

[hdmanit]

Hello everyone,


I'm considering purchasing the P5D-5F-PV camera for my surveillance setup. However, I haven't been able to confirm whether this model supports the ONVIF protocol, which is crucial for integration with my existing system.
Does anyone here have experience with the P5D-5F-PV and can confirm its ONVIF compatibility? Any insights or experiences with this camera would be greatly appreciated.

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/mena/products/All-Products/Network-Cameras/Wireless-Series/Outdoor-Camera/Picoo-Series/P5D-5F-PV

Thank you!

 

[hdmanit]

The official Dahua website doesn't specify whether this model supports ONVIF. However, some retailers list it as ONVIF-compliant -- KAMERA PT IP OBROTOWA ZEWNĘTRZNA P5D-5F-PV-0280B/0600B Picoo Dual D1 Wi-Fi 6, - 5 Mpx 6 mm, 2.8 mm DAHUA
can anyone confirm?

 

[Jim_OS]

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question about Onvif, but I assume that Dahua simply forgot to include the information in the technical data and that the camera also supports Onvif. The almost identical Imou Cruiser Dual-Lens definitely supports Onvif.

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BTW 1: You know that the Dahua Picoo series is totally "stripped down" in terms of features, right?

BTW 2: The almost identical Imou Cruiser Dual-Lens, but with 5MP+3MP, is currently available here in Germany via Amazon for € 69,99.

I don't know whether firmware is already installed on it that prevents the Imou from being recognized as a Dahua model by DMSS, Dahua NVRs, Dahua Smart PSS and the Dahua Config Tool, or whether it can only be integrated into a Dahua NVR via Onvif.

BTW 3: If you don't necessarily want a dual-lens camera, I would recommend a Dahua WizSense model rather than a model from the Picoo series. In my opinion, Dahua only brought the Picoo series onto the market because they had been planning to sell their subsidiary Imou for a while so that they could then offer some kind of "cheap product" themselves. The Picoo series cannot be compared to the normal Dahua products in terms of either hardware or software.

 

[steve1225]

I had ability to play with some similar models (not this one) - ale they DIDN'T HAD web interface nor ONVIF compatibility.

They support only Dahua private protocol & DMSS...

very crippled product at firmware level...

Shouldn't have Dahua logo...
but it's very cheap..

 

[Jim_OS]

nor ONVIF compatibility.

Interestingly, Dahua doesn't seem to have implemented Onvif in the Picoo series, but it is available in the virtually identical Imou models and they are also cheaper. The Imou Dual-Lens mentioned above also offers H.265 + H.264 and not "just" H.265 like the Picoo.

I would never buy a Picoo model myself, but if I were looking for a cheap dual lens model, I would actually buy the Imou model instead of the Picoo P5D-5F-PV, because it offers more features and at a lower price.

 

[steve1225]

Dahua sold Imou, now it is independent company
From some time we see those consumer cams under Dahua brand sold very cheap, but they are crippled so as not to compete with real dahua products sold for installers

 

[Jim_OS]

Dahua sold Imou,

Yes I know.

but they are crippled so as not to compete with real dahua products

In the early days of Imou, the cameras were identical to the Dahua models and then Dahua started to reduce the features of the Imou models. As I wrote, Dahua is now trying (once again) to position a cheap series on the market with the Picoo series, only that they have apparently reduced it even more than the comparable Imou models. Recently, Imou has also started to offer features only via their paid cloud, or to outsource them there, making the Imou model even less interesting.
As you can see in my signature, I also use an Imou model, namely the DB61i video/doorbell, and I can actually still recommend it. The Imou DB61i is absolutely identical to the Dahua DH-DB6I (Amcrest AD410) and is recognized and integrated by DMSS, Smart PSS and also my Dahua NVR as Dahua DH-DB6I.

BTW: Compared to what competitors offer with such cheap cameras, the Dahua Picoo series is currently too expensive in my opinion. The TP-Link Tapo models are no worse than the Dahua Picoo in terms of features, it's just that the Tapo models are cheaper. The TP-Link Vigi models, which as far as I know are Dahua OEM models, cost a similar amount to the Dahua Picoo series, except that the TP-Link Vigi models are not as stripped down.

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Edit: Another new Dahua dual-lens model and such a plastic bomb, only this one is not slimmed down as a WizSense model and has all the features (WebGUI, IVS, Onvif ....) that would actually make it a "fully-fledged" Dahua model. But, for whatever reason, only with 2+2 MP.

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/All-Products/Network-Cameras/WizSense-Series/2-Series/WizColor/IPC-PTS2249B-E2-S-PV-PRO

 

[steve1225]

Rule of thumb:
If camera have classic Dahua 4digit model number with chassis prefix and options postfix - it's Dahua, with Dahua web interface & integrations...

If not - it's a scam not Dahua...
it's simple...

 

[Jim_OS]

It's not quite so simple and I wouldn't agree with it across the board, but of course I know what you mean.

 

[Jim_OS]

The almost identical Imou Cruiser Dual-Lens, but with 5MP+3MP, is currently available here in Germany via Amazon for € 69,99.

I bought it to test it out and play around with. It just arrived:

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Mar 13, 2025

FYI: I just installed the new firmware version DH_NVR2XXX-I_Mul_V4.002.0000000.4.R.240729 on my NVR2108-I.

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FYI: I just got an Imou Cruiser dual lens camera (Firmware 2.800...22.R.240524), and this one is also recognized directly by the NVR and doesn't need to be integrated via Onvif.



It's also recognized directly by DMSS and Smart PSS.

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[N-i-k-s-o-n]

Hi.
Here is a table of Dahua wifi cameras: ONVIF support, web interface, binding method, Auto-registration support.

 

[DReffects]

I am fighting with a p5b as well - i've got two cams, bought within 8 weeks of each other. the first one has onvif enabled, the second one has not. both same firmware. :-/

 

[Jim_OS]

both same firmware. :-/

This is really strange, but as I already wrote, the Dahua P5D-5F-PV model is nothing other than the Imou Cruiser Dual model, and that one has/can support Onvif.

As I wrote in another post, after my first attempt with the Imou Cruiser Dual, I bought the model again because, in my opinion, there's nothing comparable for around €55. The new Imou Cruiser Dual also had a newer firmware version from 2025 pre-installed (3.1.0000000.1.R 2025-01-11), and it still supports Onvif and RTSP.

It should be clear that at a price of €55, you have to make compromises. For example, the AI for person detection also recognizes people,

Cruiser Dual PT-Lense Person Detection


but also recognizes things other than "person."


The fact that the frame rate is limited to 15 FPS and there's only one substream at 640x480 isn't great, of course, but it's pretty standard in this price range and the Dahua P5D-5F-PV can't do much better.

Dahua NVR with video settings for the Imou Cruiser Dual. I switched the codec to H.264 because I need it for the Onvif integration of Home Assistant.



For me, the most important thing was that the Imou Cruiser Dual works with my Dahua NVR and that I can also use it with DMSS. For SMD on the NVR, AI is automatically used via the camera, and for IVS I use AI via the NVR recorder.

Cruiser Dual Fix-Lense IVS Detection by NVR


If the Dahua P5D-5F-PV really doesn't even have/support Onvif anymore and costs twice as much as the Imou Cruiser Dual here in Germany, then I see no reason why I should buy the Dahua P5D-5F-PV.

 

[DReffects]

Does anyone have an older firmware for those cameras on their storage? i'd like to downgrade and test

 

[DReffects]

OMFG so I was extremely pissed about the ONVIF issues and did a deep dive.
Using Software ODM v2.2.250 i was able to read out ONVIF Data from the camera. Turns out, there seems to be a firmware bug.

I've obviously changed passwords for all cameras I own.
But for this particular model the ONVIF password did not change with the initial password change and stayed at its default value (printed on the outside of the camera..........)

I have ONVIF now.

Reading through the document dahua calls a manual I found this:



Since the very first thing I did was to upgrade the camera to the latest firmware I did not even bother to look - plus my second P5B-PV worked just fine.
Also I've restored factory defaults twice for the cam, even with the latest firmware.

Seems this bug is very persistent.

Using the ODM Tool I was able to change the password under "user management". You can even select the well known user roles like "administrator", "operator" and "user" there plus also add new users.
This is extremely useful since this particual model does not have the web interface exposed.

You can modify all sorts of parameters for the camera without the need for the stupid app with a china cloud connection:


I bet you can use this method with other Dahua / Picoo / Imou models as well. ONVIF is not being "advertised" by the P5B-PV in regards of the camera being discoverable by the usual tools - you have to add it manually anyway.