US Elections (& Politics) :)

[Parley]

So its OK with you if your President runs on releasing the Epstein files, as does your AG and FBI Director, then 2 weeks after saying they were close and the AG saying they were on her desk, they all of a sudden say they don't exist?

Did you read what Trump wrote tonight?

Is saying Fuck You I'll tell you what to talk about and what to think OK with you?

That was not the only thing that President Trump ran on. There are plenty of other import issues IMHO that is said he would do. Like finishing the border wall and getting rid of the illegals in this country. Signing the Laken RiIey Law is another step. I like what he is trying to do in paring down the government. However, at lot of people on the forum are only focusing on the Epstein "files" like nothing else matters. I am just bringing up another opinion. Would I like to see the Epstien perverts names released? Sure. I just think that there is a much larger picture than just the Epstein story.

 

[Parley]

No. I dont make it an either/or choice.

Not bowing to every whim of Israel doesnt mean the US has to wear Burkas or follow sharia law.

Who told you if we dont give Israel everything they demand and fight wars for them we're going to be forced to wear burkas?

Israel is in the fight for its survival against the Muslims. They would wipe it off the face of the Earth if they could. As far as what the Muslims are doing look no further than countries in Europe that have let them in. They are trying to force their "way" on them.

 

[David L]

I think all we need to do is look across the Pond. Islam is taking over the UK, even Australia. It is coming here...Look at Iran, how prosperous they were prior to extreme Islam...

 

[bigredfish]

There IS a much bigger picture.

If you had read what I wrote you’d see I said that.

It’s about not having my President, AG, and FBI Director lie to my face and tell me to shush.

It’s about dozens of broken promises and we’re only 6 months in.

It’s about making a big deal out of DOGE and then ignoring the findings.

It’s about campaigning on reducing our debt and then asking for the biggest debt ceiling raise in history

It’s about campaigning on getting us out of wars and then getting us into 2

It’s about “No Tax on Social Security” even after the bill is passed that doesn’t change SS one bit

I won’t vote you with 10 more but I’m afraid we’ve been played. I understand how you feel, I don’t want to admit I was lied to by the guy I voted for and supported 3X either

 

[Parley]

Bombed Iran.
Sent more weapons to Ukraine.
Approved more Covid shots for children.
Buried the Epstein Files.
Increased spending by $2-$Trillion
Raised the debt limit by $5Trillion



We’re only 6 months in…not what I voted for

It is not just Trump, The RINO's in Congress are a big problem. IMHO Trump has to deal with them. We need to get rid of the RINOs, As to the Covid shots here is the latest rules and is not mandatory.

"On May 20, the Food and Drug Administration announced a new regulatory framework that suggests that without new placebo-controlled trials, the agency will only approve updated COVID-19 vaccines in the future for people 65 and older and those with at least one risk factor for severe COVID-19.

On May 27, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said in a video posted on X that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was no longer recommending a COVID-19 vaccine for healthy children or healthy pregnant women. Previously, the CDC recommended COVID-19 vaccines for everyone 6 months of age and older."

As to the weapons for Ukraine, I think it is a way to bring more pressure on Putin to bring him to the bargaining table. You will notice that NATO is paying for the weapons.

 

[bigredfish]

I think all we need to do is look across the Pond. Islam is taking over the UK, even Australia. It is coming here...Look at Iran, how prosperous they were prior to extreme Islam...

Where did I dispute that Islam is bad? He’ll go look at the Euro thread started, I call it out regularly

We’re obviously not going to agree on our unlimited support for Israel while they infiltrate our government and drag us into wars.

Maybe you’re right. But I didn’t vote for that and I took and oath to this county not that one.

 

[David L]

Israel is in the fight for its survival against the Muslims. They would wipe it off the face of the Earth if they could. As far as what the Muslims are doing look no further than countries in Europe that have let them in. They are trying to force their "way" on them.

You know, what happens is open the borders like UK did, take in refuges, now they are dealing with the aftermath...there is a reason why Trump has a list of countries that are on the no fly list. They don't come here to live our way, they come here to live their way and will over time change our way...IMO...I can say, nothing good comes from this...

 

[Parley]

There IS a much bigger picture.

If you had read what I wrote you’d see I said that.

It’s about not having my President, AG, and FBI Director lie to my face and tell me to shush.

It’s about dozens of broken promises and we’re only 6 months in.

It’s about making a big deal out of DOGE and then ignoring the findings.

It’s about campaigning on reducing our debt and then asking for the biggest debt ceiling raise in history

It’s about campaigning on getting us out of wars and then getting us into 2

It’s about “No Tax on Social Security” even after the bill is passed that doesn’t change SS one bit

I won’t vote you with 10 more but I’m afraid we’ve been played. I understand how you feel, I don’t want to admit I was lied to by the guy I voted for and supported 3X either

I do not think you are going to get all of that in the first round with Congress. Let's see what happens in the coming legislative sessions. I will say it again. It is the RINOs in Congress who are the biggest obstacle along with the Democrats of course. IMHO, if the Republicans in Congress had all of the that in the BBB Trump would have gladly signed it. I think it will be a slow progress to get this all done.

 

[bigredfish]

It is not just Trump, The RINO's in Congress are a big problem. IMHO Trump has to deal with them. We need to get rid of the RINOs, As to the Covid shots here is the latest rules and is not mandatory.

"On May 20, the Food and Drug Administration announced a new regulatory framework that suggests that without new placebo-controlled trials, the agency will only approve updated COVID-19 vaccines in the future for people 65 and older and those with at least one risk factor for severe COVID-19.

On May 27, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said in a video posted on X that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was no longer recommending a COVID-19 vaccine for healthy children or healthy pregnant women. Previously, the CDC recommended COVID-19 vaccines for everyone 6 months of age and older."

As to the weapons for Ukraine, I think it is a way to bring more pressure on Putin to bring him to the bargaining table. You will notice that NATO is paying for the weapons.

You need to update on the mRNA jabs


Ukraine- you miss the point again.
Trump said no more wars no more $ to Ukraine and we’re facilitating it.
It’s not whether we are, it’s that Trump Lied again

 

[bigredfish]

You know, what happens is open the borders like UK did, take in refuges, now they are dealing with the aftermath...there is a reason why Trump has a list of countries that are on the no fly list. They don't come here to live our way, they come here to live their way and will over time change our way...IMO...I can say, nothing good comes from this...

Agreed. I’m not and never have been for open borders and all for no/fly for some countries

 

[bigredfish]

I do not think you are going to get all of that in the first round with Congress. Let's see what happens in the coming legislative sessions. I will say it again. It is the RINOs in Congress who are the biggest obstacle along with the Democrats of course. IMHO, if the Republicans in Congress had all of the that in the BBB Trump would have gladly signed it. I think it will be a slow progress to get this all done.

And he could have argued for it. But he didn’t. His ego is more important than the details

 

[David L]

There IS a much bigger picture.

If you had read what I wrote you’d see I said that.

It’s about not having my President, AG, and FBI Director lie to my face and tell me to shush.

It’s about dozens of broken promises and we’re only 6 months in.

It’s about making a big deal out of DOGE and then ignoring the findings.

It’s about campaigning on reducing our debt and then asking for the biggest debt ceiling raise in history

It’s about campaigning on getting us out of wars and then getting us into 2

It’s about “No Tax on Social Security” even after the bill is passed that doesn’t change SS one bit

I won’t vote you with 10 more but I’m afraid we’ve been played. I understand how you feel, I don’t want to admit I was lied to by the guy I voted for and supported 3X either

Trump had his short falls in his first term, even lost Congress midterm. I understand your frustration, I have some of my own. I have not lost hope yet though. I still believe in America first, I still believe Trump does too. Yes even though we helped Israel, and us too IMO, in the Iran bombings...

China first is the Dems motto, give them everything. I am happy we finally have someone that is working on fixing all these issues. I never once believed Trump was going to come in on day one, stop the wars, dissolve the deep state, fix all the overspending. We know Congress is a huge problem, both parties. Senate too. As many departments that need to go away, be gutted. No way Trump will be able to fix this major issue, IMO. Sadly, most of that issue is who we vote for, Lindsey Graham for instance and so many more.

How much will Trump accomplish, we know not as much as he will boast. Trump claims wins even when there are not any, we all know Trump by now. BUT, I believe he still has the majority of our interest as his driving force. Time will tell...

Just my 2 cents...

 

[sdkid]

You need to update on the mRNA jabs


Ukraine- you miss the point again.
Trump said no more wars no more $ to Ukraine and we’re facilitating it.
It’s not whether we are, it’s that Trump Lied again

I see "approved for use" as being very different than "recommended" or "MANDATORY".

That said-- I am also surprised to see that they did approve it for use in those for babies. I hope new parents NEVER force the jab on their babies.

 

[David L]

Where did I dispute that Islam is bad? He’ll go look at the Euro thread started, I call it out regularly

We’re obviously not going to agree on our unlimited support for Israel while they infiltrate our government and drag us into wars.

Maybe you’re right. But I didn’t vote for that and I took and oath to this county not that one.

I am not directing this to you, I can't even keep up with all that is posted here, I did not even know of the Euro Thread

I agree with your list, well most of it. Actually yes, all of it, we did bomb Iran. Would love for us to bomb North Korea but Putin got to them now, he has another Nuclear power on his side...this is not good for us, not good for Europe...

I will never understand these wars or conflicts. Iran declared war on us decades ago. Their hate for Israel and us is very open. But even though I don't fully understand them, I am with anyone, Israel included, who helps us stop these threats toward us. Having a military is one thing, having Nukes, is another...

 

[David L]

I come in PEACE

 

[bigredfish]

I see "approved for use" as being very different than "recommended" or "MANDATORY".

That said-- I am also surprised to see that they did approve it for use in those for babies. I hope new parents NEVER force the jab on their babies.

Its often the fine points that are missed or glossed over.

the Administration and RFKjr said clearly any vaccine being approved would have to go through a series of tests to be approved.

1- This one, not only being mRNA, was approved for kids without going through the very tests he said were mandatory just weeks before/.
2- He also said "“We will no longer recommend COVID vaccines for healthy children and pregnant women.”

He LIED, TWICE

I guess I'm not explaining myself well/.

 

[bigredfish]

I will be trying hard to cut back on politics posts here. promise
Recommend X or Truth Social for the best current political news and goings on. By the time you see it on MSM its old, whitewashed, and pure propaganda.

1- I no longer support Trump or our government,
2- I have no fantasy about voting having any effect and dont really give two fucks anymore, today sealed that for me
3- I believe sincerely that we're heading for bad times (yes Trump will get some wins and those days everyone will shout YAY SEE He's Great) and I wont be able to be nice
4- I dont charge enough for my witty humor
5- I like you guys too much

 

[vandyman]

I will be trying hard to cut back on politics posts here. promise
Recommend X or Truth Social for the best current political news and goings on. By the time you see it on MSM its old, whitewashed, and pure propaganda.

1- I no longer support Trump or our government,
2- I have no fantasy about voting having any effect and dont really give two fucks anymore, today sealed that for me
3- I believe sincerely that we're heading for bad times (yes Trump will get some wins and those days everyone will shout YAY SEE He's Great) and I wont be able to be nice
4- I dont charge enough for my witty humor
5- I like you guys too much

6 - Relax and watch the squirrel.

 

[SJGUSMC21]

It’s about not having my President, AG, and FBI Director lie to my face and tell me to shush.

It’s about making a big deal out of DOGE and then ignoring the findings.

It’s about campaigning on reducing our debt and then asking for the biggest debt ceiling raise in history

It’s about “No Tax on Social Security” even after the bill is passed that doesn’t change SS one bit

These are the ones that gets to me the most. As I tell my kids, a lie is a lie, no matter big or small. If he/she/they lied about the Epstein files, what else will they lie about?

Just like Bill Clinton. Wasn't about him having a girl blowing him in the White House (morality aside), it was about him lying to the American People and the world about it.

A lie is a lie, no matter what. I truly do hope that Dan B. resigns.....attempts to save his integrity. But it really will not change anything.

As for Israel. AS I have said so many times, I will always support them.

All great nations come and go. I think we are going right now....corruption has caused this. Just as with the Romans. That and Moral decadence.

I never liked Trump, but I LOVED his policies. But he has bold face lied / mis-led on a number of issue right know. I no longer really give his comments much meaning.

IMO. I as well like to watch the squirrels.....

 

[David L]

These are the ones that gets to me the most. As I tell my kids, a lie is a lie, no matter big or small. If he/she/they lied about the Epstein files, what else will they lie about?

Just like Bill Clinton. Wasn't about him having a girl blowing him in the White House (morality aside), it was about him lying to the American People and the world about it.

A lie is a lie, no matter what. I truly do hope that Dan B. resigns.....attempts to save his integrity. But it really will not change anything.

As for Israel. AS I have said so many times, I will always support them.

All great nations come and go. I think we are going right now....corruption has caused this. Just as with the Romans. That and Moral decadence.

I never liked Trump, but I LOVED his policies. But he has bold face lied / mis-led on a number of issue right know. I no longer really give his comments much meaning.

IMO. I as well like to watch the squirrels.....

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Trump does not have to prove much to anyone anymore. Last Term, just hope he stays the course on the main stuff, he has been lying/exaggerating (same thing) pretty much his whole life. I would never invite him over for dinner, nor would he come. We grew up on different side of the tracks...

Epstein files are a big thing, they were stupid to even bring them up, opening a whole can of worms...well they stepped on the ant pile, now look where we are at...

Covid Origins, swept under the rug, will be the same with the Epstein files. Same with Diddy. Look at Weinstein, Cosby, the list goes on...

In this world there is no true justice, never has been...The Powerful gets away with murder, OJ...

Seems crime does pay after all , we have our riots (peaceful protest) to prove that...

But I do believe in Final Justice in the afterlife...