B54PRO-Z4E first impression

I always experiment with fps, mostly I never need more than 10-15, only maybe on critical cams I will run 20. There are some occasions where I find more detail and better freeze frame on higher fps and certainly higher bitrate, as always, find your sweet spot. For me as per many others, quality freeze frame is all that matters.

We could get by with good top of the line Trail cams then
 
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The underlying OS must have CPU/Memory/Performance monitor - be really nice if we could see this easily!!!!

P.S. I run mine at 10/15 FPS ... as I don't see a need to capture MORE images ... but I certainly want BETTER images ... ;-)

This data would be good to see no doubt, I usually try and keep mine below the max limit if possible at least, pretty sure they will be working hard enough.
 
Just a follow up using the 10FPS.
No difference I can see. Still more blurred and less quality image than the 5442 Z4 S3 running 2X slower shutter

5442 Z4 produces a better, sharper image


B54PRO Z4 running 1/1000 and 1 FPS

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5442 Z4 running 0-2 (1/500) and 30FPS

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Just a follow up using the 10FPS.
No difference I can see. Still more blurred and less quality image than the 5442 Z4 S3 running 2X slower shutter

5442 Z4 produces a better, sharper image


B54PRO Z4 running 1/1000 and 1 FPS

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5442 Z4 running 0-2 (1/500) and 30FPS

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Kinda comparing apples to oranges unless we can override the PROs processing, no? Of course the processing wouldn't be an issue if it were providing superior (or at least equal quality) results.
 
This is odd, the white SUV looks fine, something isn't right, I can get better results in the UK :( where the light is poor. You could drop the shutter to 0 - 0.7ms, but even on 1ms it should be better. Assuming you on H264H, high bitrate, no NR and no sharpening (initially at least), backlight off and firmware 1028? I know you are well versed in all this but just mentioning since it looks pretty bad considering the light levels!

Mine set as per below:

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Those will nail a nearly perfect freeze frame in light half as good, probably less in fact. So I am sure you can make some ground, unless of course the bright ambient is actually screwing with the Ai brain and causing issues. I might not see that kind of light again until sometime next year :rofl: :wow:
 
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Kinda comparing apples to oranges unless we can override the PROs processing, no? Of course the processing wouldn't be an issue if it were providing superior (or at least equal quality) results.

Yes and no! - during the day mostly I find my Pro's are OK, low light or night is when the processing takes the wheel! otherwise I can get them to nail motion pretty good, all be it on 0.95ms shutter. The light in @bigredfish samples is very good, maybe too good and this is causing other issues, sadly I cannot compare at this point since we won't see those kind of light levels again until probably June/July 2026.
 
Just a follow up using the 10FPS.
No difference I can see. Still more blurred and less quality image than the 5442 Z4 S3 running 2X slower shutter

5442 Z4 produces a better, sharper image


B54PRO Z4 running 1/1000 and 1 FPS

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5442 Z4 running 0-2 (1/500) and 30FPS

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I will put my 54Pro ZE which covers a road on max zoom tomorrow and just make sure it still gives me good freeze motion, at the moment it is on around 50% zoom, possibly 60%. I do have one covering a door way with human traffic and that is OK, maybe not quite S3 level but pretty damn close, more like your first white SUV image than the next 5. For the record, I actually prefer the white suv image from the Pro, more natural look, the 5442 version of that vehicle looks over sharpened and processed, that could be personal preference. Granted the other images from the 5442 in those samples are clearly superior to the Pro. It's even more bizarre because you should be getting reasonably consistent images like the first one.
 
1028 FW
All right, but I do have NR on 15, I'll turn it off.

Its still lipstick on a pig if you have to run 10fps, 1ms exposure and 0 NR which will fall apart at dusk or during cloudy weather
 
1028 FW
All right, but I do have NR on 15, I'll turn it off.

Its still lipstick on a pig if you have to run 10fps, 1ms exposure and 0 NR which will fall apart at dusk or during cloudy weather

I can promise you these Pro's do not like NR or sharpening, it fries the brain even more.

Mine is running 15fps and will give same results at 20fps or even 25fps, remember mine is a ZE turret. I switch mine to IR 30 minutes before sunset, at least, sometimes 1 hour. Light is bad in the UK though.
 
1028 FW
All right, but I do have NR on 15, I'll turn it off.

Its still lipstick on a pig if you have to run 10fps, 1ms exposure and 0 NR which will fall apart at dusk or during cloudy weather
I will put my 54Pro ZE which covers a road on max zoom tomorrow and just make sure it still gives me good freeze motion, at the moment it is on around 50% zoom, possibly 60%. I do have one covering a door way with human traffic and that is OK, maybe not quite S3 level but pretty damn close, more like your first white SUV image than the next 5. For the record, I actually prefer the white suv image from the Pro, more natural look, the 5442 version of that vehicle looks over sharpened and processed, that could be personal preference. Granted the other images from the 5442 in those samples are clearly superior to the Pro. It's even more bizarre because you should be getting reasonably consistent images like the first one.

The 54PRO likes WHITE.... I've noticed this all along. Can't explain it.

Explain the black vehicle that was actually traveling slower...
I will put my 54Pro ZE which covers a road on max zoom tomorrow and just make sure it still gives me good freeze motion, at the moment it is on around 50% zoom, possibly 60%. I do have one covering a door way with human traffic and that is OK, maybe not quite S3 level but pretty damn close, more like your first white SUV image than the next 5. For the record, I actually prefer the white suv image from the Pro, more natural look, the 5442 version of that vehicle looks over sharpened and processed, that could be personal preference. Granted the other images from the 5442 in those samples are clearly superior to the Pro. It's even more bizarre because you should be getting reasonably consistent images like the first one.


The 54PRO likes WHITE.... I've noticed this all along. Can't explain it.

Explain the black vehicle that was actually traveling slower...
 
1028 FW
All right, but I do have NR on 15, I'll turn it off.

Its still lipstick on a pig if you have to run 10fps, 1ms exposure and 0 NR which will fall apart at dusk or during cloudy weather


The 54PRO likes WHITE.... I've noticed this all along. Can't explain it.

Explain the black vehicle that was actually traveling slower...



The 54PRO likes WHITE.... I've noticed this all along. Can't explain it.

Explain the black vehicle that was actually traveling slower...

Depending on whether the bullet 54Pro is working differently, my take on the black vehicle and the carts is down to NR and/or processing. The only time I see those kind of artifacts/smearing/blur now on my Pro ZE is during poor light or at night, anything close to daylight and mine are in pretty good shape, sometimes surprisingly so in fact. This is in part what annoys me more about these things, some mornings when it is in colour and terribly dark image, it can still give great detail. This is partly why I think there could still be a lifeline for these things :idk:
 
.I'm getting "acceptable" results in daytime. Just not as good as the 5442 S3


If I didn't have a 5442 S3 50 ft away I may not notice the daytime so much.
At night its a hot mess in both color and IR
 
.I'm getting "acceptable" results in daytime. Just not as good as the 5442 S3


If I didn't have a 5442 S3 50 ft away I may not notice the daytime so much.
At night its a hot mess in both color and IR

I get that 100%, hot mess if not daylight no doubt, which makes daytime somewhat irrelevant I know. But you should be getting better and more consistent results with those light levels, if you can face anymore testing :lol::wow:

Regardless, a truck comes by and my S3 is clean and noise free, sharp and bright, the Pro looks like an 8 year old camera that needs replacing. Those are indeed the facts, sadly. I could easily just rip mine down and swap for S3 or 4K at this point. If the bad guys turn up in white trucks with large black letters on the side we will be in good shape though :love: